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Poll Question: Which of these is four or five stars? (you can vote for more than one)
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
30 [15.38%]
20 [10.26%]
17 [8.72%]
30 [15.38%]
20 [10.26%]
5 [2.56%]
5 [2.56%]
9 [4.62%]
2 [1.03%]
5 [2.56%]
30 [15.38%]
2 [1.03%]
20 [10.26%]
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    Posted: October 09 2004 at 15:30

I'm trying to figure out which of these controversial albums peole like most. I specifically left out a lot of better-known or very well-liked albums for this, including the ones I either don't or have people seem to disagree on. You can vote for more than one album.

When you vote, please tell us what you thought was a four or five star album and why, then tell us which ones you own (or have heard) and despise, or why you think they are 0 to 3 stars. If you don't own an album, don't vote for one.

Hopefully I can figure out what  people like and hate! In your posts especially tell us what you really, really don't like.

I voted for "The Wall", "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway", and "Lightbulb Sun". The rest of these I don't own and hope to see what you think so I'll know what to get next!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 15:32
Please don't abuse this. Be truthful and honest and only vote once per album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 16:30

What makes any of these albums controversial??  Except maybe Atom Heart Mother..

So are you asking us which ones we like the most... or which one we think is the most controversial?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 16:30

Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

What makes any of these albums controversial??

I was just about to ask that same thing.  Define controversial...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 16:43
OH! Oops. I'm asking which ones you like...sorry.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 16:57

I get it OK.Wink What your saying is that opinions are more divided over these albums than most others.

I voted for BSS, TFTO, Relayer and ATTWT. I don't dislike many of the others, but probably wouldn't give them 4 or 5 stars.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 17:44

Where's "Signals" ? " Momentary Lapse Of Reason"  ??Confused

These are more contraversial for obvious reasons (Synths in Rush's case and the absence of Waters in Floyd's)

Let's be honest "Atom Heart Mother","Tales From Topographic Oceans", "90125" and "Then There Were Three"are only contraversial in the sense that they are crap albums by respected normally consistently excellent artists!

Of the others I would definitely rate the Wakeman-less "Relayer" as kind of contraversial departure for Yes.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 17:44
I voted for BSS ,ATTWT,The Wall. Brain Salad Surgery is widely regarded as ELP's best album and is also currently in the top 20 on the home page.I think 'Pictures at an Exhibition' would have been a better choice for ELP as that divides opinion more even between fans of the band.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 17:55

Defintely BSS is, or should be, a 5 star disc. It was the most cutting edge album of ELP's discography.  

The Wall is a very good 4 star album. PF doesn't say anything new and the only diversion from the past (DSOTM, Animals and WYWH) is the presense of the disco styled dance beat that seemed to deviate from the past, but is hardly unique.

All the other discs are 3 to 4 stars across the board. They may define a band's best output, but are not necessarily groundbreaking, except for blatant commercialism.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 18:22
Well we know which one I'm going for first... then after BSS.. I'd go for the Wall and TFTO.  But I think my avatar says it all...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 18:24

The only ones that could deserve 5 stars from this list IMO are:

  1. The Lamb
  2. Brain Salad Surgery
  3. Relayer

The ones for 4:

  1. A Passion Play
  2. Atom Heart Mother
  3. The Wall

2 stars or less:

  1. ATTW3
  2. Eye in the Sky
  3. 90125

Alñl the other mentioned are in a respectable 3 star range.

To be honest I don't see the cotroversy in 90125, Eye in the Sky and ATTW3 those are only pop albums, all mediocre IMO but no general controversy.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 18:24
Topographic Oceans all the way. Everyone expected it!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 18:41
Some tracks of some of the albums above are 5 stars. For example:
Gates of Delirium - Relayer
Summer 68,If, Fat old sun - Atom Heart Mother
Toccata and Karn Evil 9 - ELP

But I think all of this groups have better albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 18:42

"controversial albums" is just the title, it means nothing. I left out ones I'm not even considering, and threw in a few pop ones just to see what you thought about them.

I'm looking at getting "Relayer" soon and maybe "A Passion Play".

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 09 2004 at 19:04
The only one that is essential(4 or 5 stars) would be The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway....while I don't classify it as a masterpiece it is still an album every progger should own....the rest is unnecessary.,which doesn't mean their bad...but fall into the good but non-essential catagory
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2004 at 01:48

I voted 'The lamb..' 5 stars. A classic that was not that well recieved at the time. I understand this album caused a certain amount of controversy in the US when they toured out there with it. I think the English public school perception of what a Peurto Rican teenager would be like didn't go down that well with some members of that community. Just what I read.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2004 at 02:05

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

The only one that is essential(4 or 5 stars) would be The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway....while I don't classify it as a masterpiece it is still an album every progger should own....the rest is unnecessary.,which doesn't mean their bad...but fall into the good but non-essential catagory

Thats the funniest thing I've read from you yet! 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2004 at 05:43
Originally posted by threefates threefates wrote:

Originally posted by gdub411 gdub411 wrote:

The only one that is essential(4 or 5 stars) would be The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway....while I don't classify it as a masterpiece it is still an album every progger should own....the rest is unnecessary.,which doesn't mean their bad...but fall into the good but non-essential catagory

Thats the funniest thing I've read from you yet! 

I am sorry Threefates, but as you know I have never been bowled over by Yes as of yet and Brain Salad Surgery to me is just good....not great. I much prefer their 1st 2 albums. ELP has alot of great music ,but there is always something on each album that doesn't quite win me over. I don't mean to slam anyone's tastes or insult anyone, it is just my opinion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2004 at 05:45
Also I must say...I have never heard Spock's Beard or Porcupine Tree as of yet
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 10 2004 at 06:00
The Lamb = 5
TFTO= 4
Passion Play =4

The Lamb:- was DIFFERENT from what Genesis had ever done
before or since.

TFTO:- was overly-long and gave new-boy Alan White it bit
too much rope in places.
Listening to Revealing the Science of God since originally posting this, I believe that this track includes some of Wakeman's greatest Moog and Mellotron
playing of his career

Passion Play:- Thick as a Brick with synths


PS I would like to have seen Camel's Rain Dances and Gentle Giant's Missing Piece in the poll

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