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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2009 at 13:52
It`s from an album called Uber sieben Brucken ( Over 7 Bridges ) Wow! I thought I was the only one on the planet who had that album. I think it was also released in West Germany at the time but I`ve got an East German pressing. Got it at some yard sale somewhere for 50 cents or something like that. They`re still going I believe. Wonder why they`re not on PA??? Some cool stuff here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2009 at 14:09
I thought too that I'm the only one here who knows KARAT. LOL

Though I paid for my copy of "Uber sieben Brucken" (Karat II) a little more - about 10 euro. West German edition was entitled "Albatros" and contained beautiful ballad "Konig der Welt" from the band's first album instead of the song "He, Mama".

First four KARAT albums contained both prog songs and straightforward rock and blues. In the 80's they, like many others, changed their sound according to foolish fashion of the time. None of their albums is pure prog. 

If they deserve to be included on PA, I think only as prog-related. By the way, the band is listed in GEPR.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 01:29
Even nowadays a couple of bands do it,

Like "Tokio Hotel"...

Don't bother listening ton them, terrible, poppy, boring rock.

But

They record all of their songs in both German and English.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 01:54

Not bothering to read a couple of the previous pages but....

 
 
You have Rammstein, which is a good deal of fun.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 11:21
Originally posted by GaryB GaryB wrote:

Here are a few more German bands that I have set aside for closer listens:

Eloy, Kraan, Grobschnitt, Karthago, Kin Ping Meh and Message.

I believe most of them sing in English but if I come across some in German, I will post them.

Grobschnitt's album "Jumbo" was released in a German and in an English version.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 14:18
That's an interesting fact about Jumbo. I checked my LP and have the English version. I only have their first three LPs. I like all of them but I think their first might be my favorite. I have quite a bit of 70s German music in my collection with Grobschnitt and Satin Whale being two of the bands I started with.
 
BTW, I get together twice a week with my long time friend (jr hi school) and fellow collector to listen to albums. Last night he played a German band called To Be. The LP was untitled and released in 1976. I am basically a prog-rock/prog-jazz fan and this LP just blew me away. It was German prog with a Latin beat and I rated the musicianship right up their with the likes of Return To Forever
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 14:37
Greets from southern California,

My old Swiss progressive rock band Flame Dream,singer Peter Wolf wrote lyrics and sang always in english due because our label Vertigo,Phonogram and the band wanted to make our music much much more international.
Even whilst tracking,recording working at Patrick Moraz's Aquarius Studios in Geneva,Switzerland;and his amazing engineer Jean Ristori,(where most European prog rock bands recorded at);spoke and wrote in mostly english.
http://www.rire-sous-cape.ch/counting-out-time/flame-dream/flame-dream-index.htm


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2009 at 19:27
Once again the English language is being confused with England the country. Any music that charted in the UK was not just England, however the English decided that record/cd's recorded in Scotland, Wales and Norhern Ireland would be based on sales per country rather on a UK as a whole sales. This in fact stopped Runrig entering the top 5 in the 80/90's. A level playing field it is not....still biased towards English acts.
 
The Germans sung in English because....it pissed of the English who couldn't sing in German.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2009 at 16:26
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

The first one to only use German as a language in German rock music was singer Udo Lindenberg (of whom hardly anyone knows that he used to be a good drummer and even played with Passport on their first album).


I knew that! And I love some of his albums from the 1970s, especially PANISCHE NAECHTE, which is darker than you'd expect from him.

By the way, there are lots of British (and American) artists who sing in excellent German, e.g. Ian Bostridge, James Gilchrist, Simon Keenlyside, Thomas Hampson and Mark Padmore. But they've all had classical training.

Also, in past decades certain French-language, German-language and Italian-language performers did very well in the charts in the Dutch-speaking parts of the world. (I can hear some of you Yanks going: "Dutch? Ain't that the same as German? )
For example: Umberto Tozzi, Eros Ramazotti, Serge Gainsbourg, Les Poppies (!) and that idiot who crooned "Du bist ALLES was ich habe auf der Welt! Du bist alles was ich bin, YE-E-AH!"

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2009 at 17:54
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Les Poppies (!)
 
Seems to be a play on the word "puppies" ?
Is that a french band ?
 
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

"Du bist ALLES was ich habe auf der Welt! Du bist alles was ich bin, YE-E-AH!" 
 
Yes, indeed very clever lyrics : "you are all I have in the world . You are all I am..."
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2009 at 10:08
Actually, I think they spelled their name "Les Poppys". They were a wildly popular French boys choir from the early seventies, who had hits with pop songs like "Non, non, rien n'a change" (sorry, I don't have the accent handy) and "Isabelle je t'aime". You can probably find them on YouTube!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2009 at 10:43

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I didn't know France produced this kind of s**t...The lyrics are really laughable cf the ones for "il faut une fleur pour faire le monde" : "to build a house you need wood, and to find this wood you need a tree, to grow this tree one had to sow a seed  a seed living and beautiful, to get the seed a flower had to grow, a flower so sweet, we needed a flower to make the world..."
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2009 at 12:00
Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Chez ces gens-là, monsieur,
on ne vit pas!! On triche!!!

Jacques Brel
 
if you have not heard Ange do this song ... it's a treat. And it shows, that Decamps is one of the finest actor singers out there ever ... sorry Peter ... and Fish and whoever else!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2009 at 12:06
Hi,
 
I found the reason ... I found it!
 
You have to do some math ...
 
How many German speaking peoples there are ...
 
... and then ...
 
(here comes the kicker ...)
 
How many English speaking people there are in both the Great Brittain areas and American areas ...
 
Added these up ....
 
Now check out where you think you might have a chance at making a few dollars or pounds ...
 
And then decide if you are more interested in something else ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2009 at 12:10
Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Chez ces gens-là, monsieur,
on ne vit pas!! On triche!!!

Jacques Brel
 
if you have not heard Ange do this song ... it's a treat. And it shows, that Decamps is one of the finest actor singers out there ever ... sorry Peter ... and Fish and whoever else!
 
Yes, Jacques Brel had very interesting lyrics, to say the least. He was Belgian and not French. I don't care much for Ange. England gave us much better bands.
 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2009 at 12:44
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

^


I didn't know France produced this kind of s**t..."


You obviously haven't watched too many Eurovision song contests! I vividly remember someone called Anne-Marie David winning, with "On a tous un banc, un arbre, une rue...", also in the early seventies. (Lovely melody, we were charrrmed!) She may have been Swiss, actually. But there was always Vicky Leandros as well. In fact, as a prog-loving Belgian I'm quite proud that, back in the eighties, a Belgian band (Telex) made fun of the whole caboodle with a little number ("Moscow Disco") in pure Kraftwerk style!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2009 at 14:47
P.S. I made a mistake. "Moscow Discow" was one of Telex' earlier singles. For the Eurovision contest they wrote a special number, to which they gave the exciting title "Eurovision":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6USa0zUMmqI

They had the distinction of finishing last! ("La Belgique, nul points!") Clearly hoi polloi were not ready for this. Out-of-this-world!

By the way, Les Poppys were not as silly as you might think. The opening number on their first album ("Des chansons pop") opened with a daring guitar solo in Jimi Hendrix vein, it finished with a French-language cover of "Let the Sunshine in" (which I, as an eleven year old, found incredibly exciting) and in between there even was a kind of... well... a "tribute" to Jimi (who'd only just died):

Pour Jimi Hendrix qui ne voulait pas voir
Pour les Blancs, les Rouges, les Jaunes ou bien les Noirs
Pour l'Ouest ou le Sud, ou l'Est ou bien le Nord
Pour tous les vivants qui distribuent la mort
Je demande une trêve pour que se passe en paix
Cette conférence au sommet

("Noel '70")

Ah, innocent days!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 01 2009 at 15:11
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

Not bothering to read a couple of the previous pages but....


 

 

You have Rammstein, which is a good deal of fun.


Forgive me for butting in again, but who's Morningwood and why does your signature say "censored"? As far as I can tell, the picture was taken in the garden of Stowe, Buckinghamshire, England - any special reason?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 04:22
Latest news: at the time of writing, one Peter Fox (from Berlin) has a huge hit in the (Dutch-speaking) Low Countries with something called "Haus am See", sung in German. It's a true "summer hit", in spite of the fact the German language is not usually perceived as "cool".


Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

I found the reason ... I found it! You have to do some math... How many German speaking peoples there are ... and then ...(here comes the kicker ...) How many English speaking people there are in both the Great Brittain areas and American areas ...


On the other hand, there are lots of U.K. bands who never make it in the U.S. but who manage to survive by touring the U.K. alone, with occasional forays into selected European countries. Similarly, many Italian acts thrive by touring Italy alone. Now Germany has a much bigger population than either Italy or the U.K. so - you see what I mean!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 13 2009 at 05:52
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:

Chez ces gens-là, monsieur,
on ne vit pas!! On triche!!!

Jacques Brel
 
if you have not heard Ange do this song ... it's a treat. And it shows, that Decamps is one of the finest actor singers out there ever ... sorry Peter ... and Fish and whoever else!
 
Yes, Jacques Brel had very interesting lyrics, to say the least. He was Belgian and not French. I don't care much for Ange. England gave us much better bands.
 
 
 



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