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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 09 2008
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 18:48 |
kingfriso wrote:
I one Supertramp record should be part of the PA top 100 it would be 'Crisis, what crisis?". Ít's still a total mistery why Crime of the Century is so highly regarded. It's a kind of pop album.. |
I find it heavily intriguing how would could hear Crime as "kind of pop" and not Crisis?, as I think they're both similar. If anything, Crisis? is more apt to be labeled pop than Crime, I would think----and Supertramp aren't pop at all, really. They just incorporate pop-accessibility into their works, and I would hesitate to lump them in with other artists that are labeled pop.
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MovingPictures07
Prog Reviewer
Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Beasty Heart
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 18:49 |
As to the poll question... I'm not quite sure where I'd place it on my personal top 100, and I stopped caring about the site's top 100 a while ago.
But I do think it's underrated for the most part, and I'm glad that it gets good attention here.
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Little Sir John
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Joined: May 19 2009
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 22:04 |
Crime of the Century is not pop ...okay well Dreamer is... and Bloody Well Right... and a few other tracks. But that's not important. They're still progressive pop. And School and the title track are definitely more rock than pop. Anyway, even the pop songs are pop rock. If you put it all together, you have a nice pop-influenced progressive rock album.
On a side note, I love School. It is a very appropriate song. It's very important to me and I think it has been to a lot of students in the past. It's so powerful and so relevant and so true.
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Evan
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Joined: April 13 2009
Location: California
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 22:44 |
27 is way to high. It should be AT LEAST 28. *shakes fist at PA's flawed rating system*
In all seriousness though, 27 is as good a place as any for CotC, though I'll admit it is higher on my personal list, and furthermore one of the few albums I consider absolutely perfect. There are few moments as exciting as the piano solo in School, as
hypnotizing as the saxophone in Hide in Your Shell, or as satisfying as
the last notes of the title track. It is for me (and apparently for this site as well) the pinnacle of Crossover Prog. Granted, the genre itself takes a lot of flack because it dares touch base with *gasp* pop, but this broadness is part of the charm of the record. I can, however, understand why this may turn off our more "purist" proggers.
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jammun
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Joined: July 14 2007
Location: United States
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 22:52 |
Eh, why not? It's a pretty good album. I've heard worse, some of which might actually outrank it in the Top 100 at any given moment. In a sense, it's a perfect representation of prog's influence on a pretty good rock band and therefore, given that niche, may be perfectly placed. If not, don't worry, won't be there long.
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Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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Zitro
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Location: United States
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Posted: July 01 2009 at 14:00 |
It's fine where it is. The title track is a masterpiece and the rest is very finely-crafted rock&pop.
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The Truth
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Joined: April 19 2009
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Posted: July 02 2009 at 10:45 |
I like Supertramp ok but Crime of the Century never did anything for me. Even In the Quietest Moments should be up there!
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akin
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Joined: February 06 2004
Location: Brazil
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Posted: July 03 2009 at 10:19 |
I don't like it very much and I don't think it is really prog, just a few songs, but anyway, top lists are about general peoples' tastes and it is expected that an album highly praised by the critics and audience will figure high on the list.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Location: Mexico
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Posted: July 03 2009 at 18:28 |
Bloody well Right to sayyyyyyy.....
Vote for the non overrated.
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manofmystery
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Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
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Posted: July 05 2009 at 19:09 |
There are a few very good pop songs on this album but 27th is way to high on a prog list
Have it settled into the number 445 spot on my personal, yet to be completed, list
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Badabing666
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Location: Devon, UK
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 03:37 |
I'll confess that it is in my top 20. I do revisit it every so often to make sure that it deserves to rank so highly and each time that I play it I realise how good it is.
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Sean Trane
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Prog Folk
Joined: April 29 2004
Location: Heart of Europe
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Posted: July 07 2009 at 10:31 |
As far as Prog is concerned, COTC is fine where it is....
but given all time faves....it's in my top 10/
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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