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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 14:57 |
Padraic wrote:
I've needed Choirs of the Eye for some time but have been too lazy to acquire it.
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Patrick. How awesome was Pocket Orchestra?
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Padraic
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 14:57 |
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I've never been a n00b. Explain n00b then, I bet it's harder than explaining what prog means.
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It's just like prog - hard to explain, but you know it when you see it.
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Padraic
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 14:58 |
I see you got OSI's Blood recently, Scott. What do you think of it?
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rushfan4
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 14:58 |
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
rushfan4 wrote:
Keppa4v wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
Keppa4v wrote:
I downloaded it the day it was released (having not heard anything by them before) and for a long time it was pretty meh, with some interesting parts though. Today I finally listened to it with thought and... well... listened to it four times again after that first one |
Yeah, I really do need to give it a few more chances. But honestly, every time I've heard it so far just made me want to listen to Leaving Your Body Map or Bath instead.
@Scott: I'd give it a chance soon. Given your tastes, you'd probably enjoy it a bit more than me.
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Perhaps I should try the other albums out some day now that I'm warming up to Kayo Dot as well. I'll probably get Choirs of the Eye in the mail tomorrow, I've listened to it three times on Spotify so far.
Now I'm off to bed, I'll listen to some more Astra later. The first two tracks at myspace left a very good impression after all, thanks Scott for the tip |
Good night. I really need to hear Choirs of the Eye, since that is the album people refer to as Kayo Dot's masterpiece. I have still only heard Dowsing Anemone and I thought that that album was horrible. Bad experience like that tend to make it hard for me to be interested in listening to the band's other works. |
Not sure if you'd like Choirs or not, Scott. It does have less metal and walls-of-sound than DAwCT, but it's still really jazzy and avant-garde. It's not accessible music by any means, but when it finally clicked for me, it was one of the most amazing things I'd ever heard.
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Dowsing is probably another one that I need to bite the bullet and listen to again. Maybe I am confusing them with GY!BE but I was actually quite bored listening to them. Nothing seemed to happen with the music. One note at a time, held for an extended period, and then repeated 4 or 5 times, etc... Probably an exaggeration, but this is stuff that I just found to be boring.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 14:59 |
Padraic wrote:
I've needed Choirs of the Eye for some time but have been too lazy to acquire it.
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You just convinced me to listen to it.
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Padraic
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 14:59 |
Oh and I have to listen to Octahedron still.
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Padraic
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:00 |
For what it's worth Scott, I hated Dowsing as well, but I need some more listens.
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rushfan4
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:01 |
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I see you got OSI's Blood recently, Scott. What do you think of it? |
I am still building the anticipation. I haven't listened to it yet. I absolutely loved their debut album, and Free was almost as good. My expectations are high on this one, but I haven't listened to it yet. I didn't listen to much music this weekend, although I have made it through the first 2 CDs of the new DT album.
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:03 |
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:04 |
Padraic wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
I've never been a n00b. Explain n00b then, I bet it's harder than explaining what prog means.
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It's just like prog - hard to explain, but you know it when you see it.
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It's usually closely related to various forms of Fail. Rico, you have failed many times. It isn't just fail though. It is also when someone makes a very stupid comment that people laugh at (not because it is deliberately amusing). The grandmaster of this latter phenomenon was Mickey The Wizard. It also happens to be associated with like and dislike for music, whether it is subjective or objective or not. So enjoying World Record over all other VdGG albums is slightly n00by (because it is a great album but to like it over their obviously better previous albums is not good). Listening to a whole band/artist's discography (even the crap) in chronological order as well as having a list of bands/artists to "try out" is also rather n00by. I am sure there are more examples too.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:05 |
rushfan4 wrote:
birdwithteeth11 wrote:
I see you got OSI's Blood recently, Scott. What do you think of it? |
I am still building the anticipation. I haven't listened to it yet. I absolutely loved their debut album, and Free was almost as good. My expectations are high on this one, but I haven't listened to it yet. I didn't listen to much music this weekend, although I have made it through the first 2 CDs of the new DT album. |
I agree. Their debut is amazing and their second album Free, while not a masterpiece, is still quite good. I think I like Blood almost as much as their debut though.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:07 |
Patrick, Knebnegauje gets more awesome with further listens too. But you knew that already.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:18 |
Michael Jackson ftw. YEAH!! Let the groove begin!
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:19 |
James wrote:
Padraic wrote:
Ricochet wrote:
I've never been a n00b. Explain n00b then, I bet it's harder than explaining what prog means.
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It's just like prog - hard to explain, but you know it when you see it.
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It's usually closely related to various forms of Fail.
Rico, you have failed many times.
It isn't just fail though. It is also when someone makes a very stupid comment that people laugh at (not because it is deliberately amusing).
The grandmaster of this latter phenomenon was Mickey The Wizard.
It also happens to be associated with like and dislike for music, whether it is subjective or objective or not.
So enjoying World Record over all other VdGG albums is slightly n00by (because it is a great album but to like it over their obviously better previous albums is not good).
Listening to a whole band/artist's discography (even the crap) in chronological order as well as having a list of bands/artists to "try out" is also rather n00by.
I am sure there are more examples too.
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Failing doesn't make anyone a n00b. Or at least, they way "fail" is being shouted around here, it's so utterly subjective, so that qualifying someone as n00b is meaningless. My comment was not stupid, I exposed my thoughts on the matter fully. You just laughed at it because it's your (plural) way of disagreeing. And since you plainly disagreed with my point (with a majority), that's simply your (plural again) problem. If n00biness is associated with liking or disliking music, and that's n00bishness, then we are all n00bs. My dislike was just as subjective as your like. If liking a special musical album above the standardized master-work (like Elixirs or World Record) is n00bness (I don't think it is), then I fully accept the title, because I can die happy with the music I like, and ultimately don't care at all of other people. Listening to a one artist's/band's full discography (incidentally, in chronological order) is one man's simple pleasure and option. No one actually made any complaint about you (singular this time) criticizing bands and music after listening to just one piece or even less, although it's obviously (more a fact than a subjective issue) that it's something silly to do. Please, do bring more examples, cause these ones aren't satisfying one bit. Since virtually each time I say "I like this" and another says "I don't like this" - or viceversa - and that makes both persons n00bs, the examples expressed this way are plainly baloney.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:21 |
Wow, that just illustrated my point, Rico.
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Ricochet
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:30 |
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:30 |
If you have more than 10,000 posts here, you're probably a n00b.
No other qualifications are needed.
/Harry with an English accent
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:31 |
All that waffle you wrote in response to my own waffle. That's very n00by indeed.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: July 06 2009 at 15:31 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
If you have more than 10,000 posts here, you're probably a n00b.
No other qualifications are needed.
/Harry with an English accent
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That too.
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