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Poll Question: Pick your 3 best Italian Prog one-off albums (only 3 please!)
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
3 [3.13%]
21 [21.88%]
5 [5.21%]
10 [10.42%]
1 [1.04%]
13 [13.54%]
11 [11.46%]
15 [15.63%]
2 [2.08%]
3 [3.13%]
12 [12.50%]
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 01:45
1 . Campo di Marte
2. Semiramis
3. Balletto
4. Museo Rosenbach
5. RRR
6. Celeste 
7. Alusa Fallax
8. Capuano
9. Maxophone
10. Locanda
11. RADM
 
Ask me later and it will be different.  I love them all!  Here's a list of other one-offs that are among my favorites, more or less in order:
 
Rocky's Filj
Cervello
Stefano Testa
Apoteosi
Pholas Dactylus
L'Uovo di Colombo
Pierpaolo Bibbo
Blocco Mentale
Ricordi D'Infanzia
Rustichelli e Bordini
De De Lind
Festa Mobile
Il Paese Dei Balocchi
J.E.T.
Panna Fredda
Odissea
Osage Tribe
Planetarium
Triade
I Califfi
dozens more . . .
 
Honorary mention goes to no-off bands Officina Meccanica and Il Giro Strano, whose songs were only compiled and released posthumously.
 
Don't forget that Balletto produced other albums (though much less significant), and Celeste and RADM sort of did too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 03:42
The two of these that I keep listening to are the releases by Reale Accademia and Alusa Fallax.  The Reale Accademia release is the better of the two.  Locanda Delle Fate is a recent acquisition that is also quite promising, but I haven't heard it enough yet to give a decided judgement.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 04:35
Some cracking albums there. The only one I don't have is Enzo Capuano.

I like them all, but if pushed, would have to say:

1 Museo Rosenbach
2 Locanda Delle Fate
3 Il Balletto Di Bronzo

closely followed by the likes of Campo di Marte, Semiramis, Celeste....

Sometimes it can vary depending on what type of mood you're in I guess, but I always seem to have time for Zarathustra, and I think the opening to the album is great, particularly the raw emotion and 'roughness' of the vocalist. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 05:08
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

1 . Campo di Marte
2. Semiramis
3. Balletto
4. Museo Rosenbach
5. RRR
6. Celeste 
7. Alusa Fallax
8. Capuano
9. Maxophone
10. Locanda
11. RADM
 
Ask me later and it will be different.  I love them all!  Here's a list of other one-offs that are among my favorites, more or less in order:
 
Rocky's Filj
Cervello
Stefano Testa
Apoteosi
Pholas Dactylus
L'Uovo di Colombo
Pierpaolo Bibbo
Blocco Mentale
Ricordi D'Infanzia
Rustichelli e Bordini
De De Lind
Festa Mobile
Il Paese Dei Balocchi
J.E.T.
Panna Fredda
Odissea
Osage Tribe
Planetarium
Triade
I Califfi
dozens more . . .
 
Honorary mention goes to no-off bands Officina Meccanica and Il Giro Strano, whose songs were only compiled and released posthumously.
 
Don't forget that Balletto produced other albums (though much less significant), and Celeste and RADM sort of did too.

Your list of other one-offs are all Italian (most of the names look it)?  Don't know if they'd fit as I'm sticking early to mid 70's here.

And I realize about your final point.  Balletto especially.  But it's pretty arguably a new band: out went Marco Cecioni and in came Gianni Leone, add a change of bassist, and you have the uncompromising experts of the famous album Ys.  I will admit that I did think of leaving them out of the poll, not just for the reason that there was this earlier record (though a psychedelic record) but because for so many of us the inclusion of the album is inevitable, leaving one with fewer remaining choices.  But they're in, they belong by my criteria.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 05:09
Locanda reunited in 1999 for a new album and Celeste were preparing a new album prior to their demise but the material was released only in 1991. But we can indeed count both bands as one shot bands.
 
For me it's a tie betweeen Locanda and Maxophone.
 
Fans of locanda should also check out another italian band playing in a similar vein : sensitiva immagine
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 08:18
I went for "Maxophone": it is the most refined and varied of all the albums listed here.
 
A wonderful list overall, by the way!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 09:46

Beautiful list of albums, but if YS is in any poll, that will have my vote.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 09:48
Semiramis ...that bassist is just plain siiiick Shocked
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 11:56
Originally posted by Todd Todd wrote:

1 . Campo di Marte
2. Semiramis
3. Balletto
4. Museo Rosenbach
5. RRR
6. Celeste 
7. Alusa Fallax
8. Capuano
9. Maxophone
10. Locanda
11. RADM
 
Ask me later and it will be different.  I love them all!  Here's a list of other one-offs that are among my favorites, more or less in order:
 
Rocky's Filj
Cervello
Stefano Testa
Apoteosi
Pholas Dactylus
L'Uovo di Colombo
Pierpaolo Bibbo
Blocco Mentale
Ricordi D'Infanzia
Rustichelli e Bordini
De De Lind
Festa Mobile
Il Paese Dei Balocchi
J.E.T.
Panna Fredda
Odissea
Osage Tribe
Planetarium
Triade
I Califfi
dozens more . . .
 
Honorary mention goes to no-off bands Officina Meccanica and Il Giro Strano, whose songs were only compiled and released posthumously.
 
Don't forget that Balletto produced other albums (though much less significant), and Celeste and RADM sort of did too.

That's a great second list of one-offs ToddClap  Your first choice Campo Di Marte would also be mine depending on the day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 15:22
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Your list of other one-offs are all Italian (most of the names look it)?  Don't know if they'd fit as I'm sticking early to mid 70's here.

And I realize about your final point.  Balletto especially.  But it's pretty arguably a new band: out went Marco Cecioni and in came Gianni Leone, add a change of bassist, and you have the uncompromising experts of the famous album Ys.  I will admit that I did think of leaving them out of the poll, not just for the reason that there was this earlier record (though a psychedelic record) but because for so many of us the inclusion of the album is inevitable, leaving one with fewer remaining choices.  But they're in, they belong by my criteria.
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Yeah, you're right.  Ys is definitely like a whole new band. 
 
The other one-offs I listed are all RPI from the 70's.  Testa is from 1977 and Bibbo from 1979, but the others from 1976 or earlier.  I did leave of Sensitiva Immagine by mistake--fantastic album from 1976 (thanks Lucas!).
 
One other honorable mention for posthumous publication is Crystals, recorded in 1974, released 1992.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2009 at 21:54
Originally posted by American Khatru American Khatru wrote:

I discovered Rock Progressivo Italiano for myself largely due to ProgArchives.  I am hooked for life to this sub-genre! 
 
And welcome to the wonderful world of RPI!  Your wallet will be lighter, but your soul will be uplifted!  There are hundreds and hundreds of albums and bands out there just waiting to be discovered.  And the great thing is even the bands from the bottom tier are often really good!
 
By the way, I don't know how deeply you've investigated RPI yet, but I wish I'd heard of Greg Walker (synphonic.8m.com) and Augusto Croce (www.italianprog.com) earlier on in my collecting.  It would have made things so much easier!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2009 at 05:20
^ I don't know either one, will look into it.  I'm absolutely thrilled about all of thisCool!  Well, except for the part about the lighter wallet; that prospect has me a littleUnhappy.  But what else is new?

I don't want to invite a whole long off-topic thing but...  I know pretty much how to shop around for a low price and all that, but what sites would you more knowledgeable (on RPI) guys and gals recommend as cool sites to buy these cds from, sites that merit support?  And anyone want to take a stab at vinyl?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2009 at 11:18
Greg Walker is an online vendor with a huge selection.  http://synphonic.8m.com/index.htm
 
Doug Larsen also has a decent selection.  http://www.hicom.net/~dlarson/
 
Both Greg and Doug are really nice guys.
 
Amazon occasionally has good titles for decent prices.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2009 at 11:19
I also order directly from BTF sometimes.  http://www.btf.it/
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2009 at 13:18
Thanks Todd. Clap  I'll check these out.  And yeah sure I've seen stuff at amazon, but I appreciate more your other suggestions of Walker and Larsen - they look more like 'sites of merit' (not that amazon's awful or anything, just not as in need of business as others).

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 28 2009 at 23:59
My usual MO is to check Greg first--best selection, great price, very fast and reasonable shipping--although occasionally Doug is a little bit less.  There are only a few items on BTF that Greg doesn't offer--they're a wonderful site with great service, although their shipping to the US is very expensive, so I buy in bundles. 
 
For the out of print items, I've found many items on Amazon used, eBay, and GEMM.  I've also purchased from Eventyr records, which was a good experience.
 
I can't help you with vinyl.  I think Augusto Croce on www.italianprog.com has a lot of information about vinyl on his site.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2009 at 11:47
I only know around half of these so I won't vote, but from what I do know, I pick Maxophone. I would pick Museo but they always were too heavy for me
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2009 at 12:46
In order:
1. Locanda delle Fate "Forse le Lucciole non si Amano Pił" (81)
2. Maxophone "Maxophone" (155)
3. Semiramis "Dedicato a Frazz" (207)
4. Museo Rosenbach "Zarathustra" (219)
5. Alusa Fallax "Intorno alla Mia Cattiva Educazione" (221)
6. Il Balletto di Bronzo "Ys" (326)
7. Buon Vecchio Charlie "Buon Vecchio Charlie" (352) <-- Why is this missing from the poll?
8. Campo di Marte "Campo di Marte" (383)
The rest of the albums on this list I have let to locate
 
*the number in () represents each albums current rank on my yet to be finished Top 1000 prog albums list


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2009 at 15:51
Out of the 11 bands I knew 8...............Ys  ...   is my pick but there are some beauties there.  but what happened to JET and CervelloCry. I will admit has anybody done a poll where nobody says what happened to this or that and everybody here agreesLOL I think they would have more chance winning the lotteryLOL.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 29 2009 at 16:56
Manofmystery and Matthew T:
 
I could only put in the ones I know, so that's why some records that you consider great (and I have no reason to doubt they are) are missing.  Look at the top of page 2 and you'll see Todd posted a huge list of one-offs not included.  All of which just equal more great listening down the road, which is very exciting!!  And some inclusions have been technically criticised, which I'll have to look into.
 
Before this thread slows to a crawl I plan to list out everything for everyone's reference so it's all in one place. 

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