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Visitor13
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 08:11 |
Snow Dog wrote:
I think he means Dream Theater.....am I close? |
FWIW, the homepage I'm talking about was not DT's.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 08:15 |
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clarke2001
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 08:46 |
No, it's not Dream Theater nor Tool. Stop it! If someone is really curious, I'll reply with PM, damn. What homepage are you talking about guys?
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American Khatru
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 08:53 |
clarke2001 wrote:
For God's sake, I didn't. There are fans of that band on PA, I don't want to offend them - my initial post was quite harsh.
You may ask, why the hell I ranted in this thread at first place? I just wanted to illustrate that we, music fans on this forum as a whole, love music and perceive it deeply - and the feeling of moving, happiness, experience and whatnot while listening to your favourites could be also reversed if you discover something you utterly dislike.
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Now I don't know what band and I don't know what you mean. Maybe it's a language thing. Sure, I'll take a PM.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 09:23 |
American Khatru wrote:
clarke2001 wrote:
For God's sake, I didn't. There are fans of that band on PA, I don't want to offend them - my initial post was quite harsh.
You may ask, why the hell I ranted in this thread at first place? I just wanted to illustrate that we, music fans on this forum as a whole, love music and perceive it deeply - and the feeling of moving, happiness, experience and whatnot while listening to your favourites could be also reversed if you discover something you utterly dislike.
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Now I don't know what band and I don't know what you mean. Maybe it's a language thing. Sure, I'll take a PM.
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Me too...I'll keep your secret.
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June
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 09:26 |
There's a lot of bands I don't get and I'm quite happy to leave it at that (Styx, Supertramp...), but I don't think I've ever tried to love a band as much as I tried to love Genesis. I have 4 or 5 of their (yes, Gabriel-era, and I happen to like a lot of Gabriel's solo stuff) albums, but it just doesn't work. I bought every album thinking "maybe I'll like this one better" but no, it's not working. They do nothing for at at all.
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Visitor13
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 10:31 |
clarke2001 wrote:
No, it's not Dream Theater nor Tool. Stop it! If someone is really curious, I'll reply with PM, damn. What homepage are you talking about guys? |
Death's. Seriously, I saw the address of their homepage at the bottom of my browser while I was reading your post and thought you were linking to an image there, or something like that. No idea why that came up, and I can't see any other posts there related to it. But now I'm really curious. Please PM me with the name of the band!
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progrules
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 11:52 |
BaldFriede wrote:
I would agree if someone called "Pawn Hearts" a weird album, but the rest in the discography of VdGG is pretty normal, at least to my ears.
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Now we're talking ! I almost started doubting myself reading all those enthusiastic comments about Pawn Hearts. At least you agree it's weird. Some even call it great music !
On the other hand I can agree with you that other albums by VDGG are more like ... normal. Godbluff is not weird at all for instance and a pretty normal and fine album.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 12:20 |
progrules wrote:
BaldFriede wrote:
I would agree if someone called "Pawn Hearts" a weird album, but the rest in the discography of VdGG is pretty normal, at least to my ears.
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Now we're talking ! I almost started doubting myself reading all those enthusiastic comments about Pawn Hearts. At least you agree it's weird. Some even call it great music !
On the other hand I can agree with you that other albums by VDGG are more like ... normal. Godbluff is not weird at all for instance and a pretty normal and fine album. |
Don't get me wrong; I would give "Pawn Hearts" five stars. I am not afraid of weirdness; on the contrary, I welcome it.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
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yesman1972
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 13:05 |
I just recently got into the Flower Kings whom I haven't really been able to understand up til now. I also just recently got into Wobbler. I don't think I'll ever truly like Dream Theater. I remember immediately liking some of the bands that seem to be hard to get into. At first listen I loved Camel, Gentle Giant and Van der Graaf Generator.
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yesman1972
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 13:08 |
manofmystery wrote:
- Genesis
- The Beatles
- The Decemberists
- Brian Eno (any ambient really)
- Magma (the few albums I have heard aren't that special)
- Kansas (too poppy)
- almost every popular band from the last 20 or so years
- Prog Metal (truely awful genre) |
If you are considering Kansas too poppy, you must be going by their hit songs. Check out anything off of their first six albums. There is some poppy stuff, but most of it is more upbeat than pop. The two can be similar. Their first three albums are filled with darker stuff. Kansas uses a lot of Genesis and Gentle Giant influence in their music. It takes a while to hear it, but once you do you'll be shocked. Maybe your inability to get into Genesis is part of the reason you can't get into Kansas.
Edited by yesman1972 - June 20 2009 at 13:09
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Luke. J
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 13:53 |
- Jethro Tull (though they have some good albums) - Rush (even though they are clearly talented, their music and Geddy Lee's voice make it impossible for me to like them) - most Neo-Prog (the reason being that I miss something special about most of them. Individuality maybe, or something that makes them not good but outstanding, give real character.. hard to find these days) includes Flower Kings, IQ, Pallas, Pendragon, Frost and many more.. - Porcupine Tree (most of Wilson's music, to be honest) - Riverside
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Captain Capricorn
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 14:02 |
Luke. J wrote:
- Jethro Tull (though they have some good albums) - Rush (even though they are clearly talented, their music and Geddy Lee's voice make it impossible for me to like them) - most Neo-Prog (the reason being that I miss something special about most of them. Individuality maybe, or something that makes them not good but outstanding, give real character.. hard to find these days) includes Flower Kings, IQ, Pallas, Pendragon, Frost and many more.. - Porcupine Tree (most of Wilson's music, to be honest) - Riverside
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Tull & Rush I love, but I agree 100% on everything else you just said
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Paper Champion
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 14:27 |
70's: ELP (nevertheless I do appreciate Tarkus) Jethro Tull (though I like some parts of Thick As A Brick) Van Der Graaf Generator UK 90's: Anglagard
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lucas
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 14:34 |
Paper Champion wrote:
90's:
Anglagard
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I never understood why this band is so much praised...
Although I don't really appreciate Gentle Giant, especially the sound of drums and the horrid vocals of the lead singer.
Edited by lucas - June 20 2009 at 14:34
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Nager
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 15:23 |
ELP - they represent everything that Prog was rightfully criticized for in the 70s. Zappa Transatlantic - fast food prog, some incoherent musical pieces thrown together at random into epic "suites" for the sake of progness. Neoprog bands with very few exceptions (some stuff by Marillion)
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 18:47 |
This wasn't a thread where to write what we dislike
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The T
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Posted: June 20 2009 at 19:09 |
harmonium.ro wrote:
This wasn't a thread where to write what we dislike |
The problem is that the artists you just can't get into are the ones you sometimnes end up disliking....
I tried with Sigur Ros, believe me.... now I realized I rather not visit Iceland or I'll actually go and have a serious talk with the guy....
I tried to get into The Mars volta.....
Now there are also cases where you try and you don't get into but you don't end up disliking the artist, like me and most king Crimson or jethro tull... you just put them aside, like if they didn't exist....
Most of the time, the bands you manage to"get into" are bands you actually end up liking
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Tristan
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Posted: June 21 2009 at 06:53 |
Sigor Ros
Gentle Giant
Steve Hacket's solo stuff
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Snow Dog
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Posted: June 21 2009 at 09:10 |
Tristan wrote:
Steve Hacket's solo stuff |
*Jaw on floor*
Edited by Snow Dog - June 21 2009 at 09:12
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