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Posted: June 17 2009 at 10:06
Raff wrote:
Negoba wrote:
My family is so enmeshed in the Tolkien world that its mythology is our mythology. My father has read the books so many times it borders on obsession. The professor that spoke at my brother's graduation here in Saint Louis was a big Tolkien scholar. The work he's done simply will never be matched because the kind of scholarship he had in languages and mythology is rare enough, but to combine that with the obsession in a fantasy world....It just won't happen.
I personally can't separate the parts of the world and say "this is better" or "that is better" though clearly the LOTR was the most finished piece of work for adults. The Silmarillion is already a collection of lore, and other works are even more patchwork, though some of the stories still are great.
Anybody up for a round of "Where there's a whip there's a way" over a pint or two?
You mean Tom Shippey, I suppose? I edited the Italian translation of his book The Road to Middle-earth, and had the opportunity to meet him in person in 2005, at the Birmingham convention organised on the occasion of the fiftieth anniversary of LotR.
Edit: Alberto, Ungoliant is a she...
I couldn't remember his name at first, but yes it was Tom Shippey. He was the best graduation speaker I've ever seen. Most you sit through, this made me want to go read his work. It was pretty awesome given our family history. My daughter (8) is just starting the Fellowship right now. It's pretty exciting watching someone get exposed for the first time.
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 10:10
Chris S wrote:
Talking about music related to Tolkien I would have to say Bo Hansson's Lord of The Rings is the best I have come across. Reminds me a bit of MO's Tubular Bells in that it is not perfect and rough around the edges but it flows pretty much for 40 minutes starting with the Shire and ending at Mithlond ( Havens) For 1972 it is incredibly accurate IMO in depicting moods and scenes. Check out ' Council of Elrond' and the " Ring Goes South'
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 17:13
Speaking of music for LOTR I think Howard Shore's sountrack to the movies is brilliant. A couple years ago I bought Stacy (she is a bigger fan than I am and I am a pretty big fan) the complete soundtracks (the entire movie not just clips) for the three movies. It cost a bit but what an intense listening pleasure!
Edited by Garion81 - June 18 2009 at 17:14
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Posted: June 18 2009 at 17:19
Garion81 wrote:
Speaking of music for LOTR I think Howard Shore's sountrack to the movies is brilliant. A couple years ago I bought Stacy (she is a bigger fan than I am and I am a pretty big fan) the complete soundtracks (the entire movie not just clips) for the three movies. It cost a bit but what an intense listening pleasure!
I have the soundtracks to the first two movies, but never bought the one to the third, because it didn't impress me in the same way. Actually, I thought the third movie was not as good as it could have been, unlike the first, which was almost perfect.
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Posted: June 19 2009 at 02:42
Raff wrote:
Garion81 wrote:
Speaking of music for LOTR I think Howard Shore's sountrack to the movies is brilliant. A couple years ago I bought Stacy (she is a bigger fan than I am and I am a pretty big fan) the complete soundtracks (the entire movie not just clips) for the three movies. It cost a bit but what an intense listening pleasure!
I have the soundtracks to the first two movies, but never bought the one to the third, because it didn't impress me in the same way. Actually, I thought the third movie was not as good as it could have been, unlike the first, which was almost perfect.
Agreed. I know they had to leave a lot out, but i reckon The Scouring of the Shire would have made a great little scene with the actors they had on board.
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Posted: June 19 2009 at 08:16
Our St Louis symphony orchestra did Howard Shore's reworking of the soundtrack music and it was really great. Full chorus, just a slide show in the back of the hand sketches that were also behind the credits in the movie, roughly correlating to the scenes the orchestra was playing. Took my parents and brother, and it was great experience. If you get a chance to see it, it's worthwhile.
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Joined: October 20 2005
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 13:15
Lord of the Rings and The Silmarillion are the must-reads for anyone, I prefer the latter, even if it's quite fragmented, this sometimes adds even something to the experience, more room for your imagination. And i prefer reading about Valars and Elves over reading about hobbits.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 14:00
^ the dwarves in Tokien's mythology were created even before Elves but maybe that's the case for the hobbits, I don't know...
By the way, if any of you are big fans of the Silmarillion, The book of lost tales is a must have... very detailed storytelling of the beginning of the world!
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Posted: October 11 2009 at 14:23
I voted Lord Of The Rings, which is still an amazing book. It's nice to see that a whole new generation discovers this story because of the Peter Jackson movies, though of course all should read the books as well, because many aspects of the book don't come forward in the movies, however good they are.
Some people before me have already pointed out that The Silmarillion is also worth while exploring, and I agree with them. It's a beautiful written mythology.
The Hobbit still is a great story to read. I agree with Mike's (Mr. Prog Freak's) reading sequence advice. The Hobbit is a nice starter and a good story as well, though not with the depth of the other two well known books.
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Posted: October 11 2009 at 15:07
^ I believe that if you liked The Silmarillion, you will love the Children of Hurin. It is really an extended edition of the story in the Silmarillion but with many darker elements and great story-telling as well
Joined: April 26 2005
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Posted: October 11 2009 at 15:23
aapatsos wrote:
^ I believe that if you liked The Silmarillion, you will love the Children of Hurin. It is really an extended edition of the story in the Silmarillion but with many darker elements and great story-telling as well
It is? Well, that sounds really interesting. Thanks for the tip!
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Posted: October 12 2009 at 11:51
I need to read the Silmarillion... but don't have time.. .now I'm reading The Pillars of the Earth by Ken Follet... nice.. and big... jejeje... Soon I will get back to my Hobbit geek roots... you know... I guess everybody feels more interesting in elves than hobbits but at the end of the day anyone could identify with hobbits... and see the elves like some divinity, somekind of unreal and too fancy... so I always end up feeling like I would have a little farm on the shire... jejeje... I always thought that...!!!
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