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debrewguy
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Topic: Prog lover = low self esteem Posted: June 16 2009 at 20:37 |
Really folks, has anyone alerted Amnesty International to all this torture that Prog lovers must endure. Its' popularity is eclipsed by the totality of all other genres. Its' fans are forced to listen to what the majority like. Its' supporters are constantly insulted and considered lesser forms of intelligent life
Friends, Countrymen ( & women) the time has come for a dictatorship of the Progetariat ! Once the proper order of things has been put in place, we will dictate what people like. OF course, those who disagree or dissent will have to be dealt with. And then, those of us who show signs of counter-revolution will need to be taken care of.
Or, we can just understand that each person has their own likes and dislikes, with one no better than the other. Unless there's a psychological need that some need to be convinced that having differing tastes is no reason for a lack of self esteem.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 20:41 |
Well, I was feeling kind of good about myself until I read your post.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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brainerd
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 21:07 |
Well I for one enjoy being an elitist outsider
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 21:08 |
A lack of self esteem...hmm Is it natural we progressive rock freaks should think we're the minority?...No, I don't think so. At least to my friends (not proggers), I CONFIDENTLY can assert my real interest of progressive rock. Consider it should be right.
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hawkcwg
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 21:08 |
I have plenty of self esteem, I've just come to realize that I "know" that I'm superior to everyone else.
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The T
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 21:12 |
We have nothing to lose, but our chains. But we have a world to win over....
Really, reading some threads here in PA, i agree with DB... I don't know why we don't feature, instead of ads for bands, ads for Prozac and other anti-depression medication...
Let's all create a Waco temple of prog and.... (you know what happens next..)
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Darklord55
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 21:16 |
Ya but, I'll never be able to understand why a person would like country or rap. Someone please explain. For that reason alone we need a progetariat. Power to the proggers!!
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King Crimson776
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 21:37 |
Fact: Prog is way better than mainstream sh*t today. Why do I know this? Because I'm smarter than most people and I listen to it, therefore it must be good. I also listen to jazz and classical so I'm super legit.
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jammun
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 21:58 |
Darklord55 wrote:
Ya but, I'll never be able to understand why a person would like country or rap. Someone please explain. For that reason alone we need a progetariat. Power to the proggers!! |
Hmm, can't explain the rap part, because I am part of the progetariat, but country is easy. Pedal steel guitar!
"I was drunk the day mama got out of prison..."
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Can you tell me where we're headin'?
Lincoln County Road or Armageddon.
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 22:09 |
Darklord55 wrote:
Ya but, I'll never be able to understand why a person would like country or rap. Someone please explain. For that reason alone we need a progetariat. Power to the proggers!!
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No excuse for rap that I can think of, but without country we wouldn't have country rock, which means no Allman Brothers, no Buffalo Springfield, no 'Freebird', no Neil Young, no CSN; and no alt.country which would mean no Wovenhand, no Holopaw, no Calexico, no Kings of Leon, .... this would not be good
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 22:19 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
and no alt.country which would mean no Wovenhand, no Holopaw, no Calexico, no Kings of Leon, .... this would not be good |
I beg to differ.
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Synchestra
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 22:24 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
Fact: Prog is way better than mainstream sh*t today. Why do I know this? Because I'm smarter than most people and I listen to it, therefore it must be good. I also listen to jazz and classical so I'm super legit.
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You must inform everyone you ever meet of these facts. I do it. It works wonders when trying to pick up women
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'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan
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ClemofNazareth
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 22:38 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
ClemofNazareth wrote:
and no alt.country which would mean no Wovenhand, no Holopaw, no Calexico, no Kings of Leon, .... this would not be good |
I beg to differ.
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You have no power here! Now begone, before somebody drops a house on you!
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"Peace is the only battle worth waging."
Albert Camus
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topofsm
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 22:42 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
Darklord55 wrote:
Ya but, I'll never be able to understand why a person would like country or rap. Someone please explain. For that reason alone we need a progetariat. Power to the proggers!! |
No excuse for rap that I can think of, but without country we wouldn't have country rock, which means no Allman Brothers, no Buffalo Springfield, no 'Freebird', no Neil Young, no CSN; and no alt.country which would mean no Wovenhand, no Holopaw, no Calexico, no Kings of Leon, ....
this would not be good
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Well the original rock n' roll was more of a driving tempo and power chords based off of country and blues chords, so really there would be no rock whatsoever without country.Or maybe it'd just be extra bluesy.
With rap there'd be no Rage Against the Machine, Run-DMC, or Public Enemy which are respectable groups IMO, even though they definetely aren't for anyone.
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moreitsythanyou
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 22:46 |
I'd defend myself if I had more faith and trust in my convictions
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Isa
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 23:20 |
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Progosopher
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 23:43 |
That low self esteem is just the corporate so-called-music industry talking. Any true progger can face such babble with intelligence , charm, massive geekiness , and confidence.
Without country we wouldn't have Chet Atkins or STEVE HOWE.
Without rap we would have peace on Earth.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Jozef
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Anderson III
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 02:08 |
jammun wrote:
Darklord55 wrote:
Ya but, I'll never be able to understand why a person would like country or rap. Someone please explain. For that reason alone we need a progetariat. Power to the proggers!! |
Hmm, can't explain the rap part, because I am part of the progetariat, but country is easy. Pedal steel guitar!
"I was drunk the day mama got out of prison..."
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Don't worry. I'll take care of the rap thing... The way rappers use the human voice as a musical element is actually quite unique and remarkable. As a rhythmic instrument it's definitely my favorites, because one can experiment with all these different tones and express any emotion easily. Unlike in other styles of vocal music where the lyrics are usually built within the melody, in Hip Hop it's in the rhythm - which actually insinuates that when done right, rapping is more versatile than drumming. But there's more: when the rhythm is put into rhyme, the correspondence of sound actually makes it "flow" beautifully. I can't say I'm surprised that PA members don't like Hip Hop beats very much. After all, they are similar to standard Rock 'n Roll: loud and minimalistic. But of all the genres that focus on hard-hitting beats, "hooks and loops", Hip Hop is still without a doubt my absolute favorite. I guess it's a question of taste, but I'm in love with filthy sounding music! I also prefer a clever arrangement of samples from various sources (rock, jazz, prog, funk, etc.) to that boring old guitar riff. Even if you're one of those who just like to sit back and marvel at the technique of the musicians, Hip Hop still has something to offer! There are MC's like The Gift of Gab, Lateef the Truthskeaper and Bone Thugs-n-Harmony if you want to go "how do they do that?". Plus rappers have attitude! And do I even have to mention Hip Hop as a performance art?
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"Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 02:42 |
Darklord55 wrote:
Ya but, I'll never be able to understand why a person would like rap
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Because some of it has awesome groove and rhythm. That's enough reason for me. It might be a shallow reason to you, but I don't care because I am able to listen to Merzbow for hours on end.
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