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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands.  I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past.  More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.


Very true - though I'd argue there are a few exceptions (PFM, Camel, Kayak,  Magma) .  But most of the big names - Genesis, Yes, Van der Graaf - have been underwhelming. 

The only "dinosaur" that would have me rushing out to buy the album is Camel, and from the looks of things Latimer might be heading back to the studio once he recuperates for a little bit longer. Big smile


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Genesis with PG and SH just because I have no idea what they would come out with, it might not be good, but I'd still like to see it.
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Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

Genesis with PG and SH just because I have no idea what they would come out with, it might not be good, but I'd still like to see it.


It would be fascinating to see which member it sounded most like. You've got a lot of completely independent decades-long musical practice in there- Collins pop solo, Gabriel's neurotic-rock/pop, Hackett's prog and Banks and Rutherfords... well look at their last adventure, Calling All Stations LOL.

I think Banks and Hackett would seriously push aside some of the pure pop that might be expected. If Gabriel had agreed to the scheme he would enter with some willingness to cooperate, while Collins, as he has said, is perfectly willing to "just be the drummer" in a reunion.

Plus, this wouldn't be a money-oriented album, elsewise they'd have already done it Shocked

Pink Floyd is split into two bands, Pros and Cons and About Face, as I like to think. About Face is so derelict its not funny, with Wright gone it has no credibility and only two members. Pros and Cons is a brilliant but lazy band with one member who is getting very, very old. The fusion would be more About Cons than About Pros.
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2009 at 19:25
It is agreat question.....but surely based on genesis's sheer dedication to studio material ( regardless of taste) they win hands down......I would give my left ..... to see another studio release from genesis, even without gabriel
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Give me one of the classic hard rock bands from the late 60's/early 70's. Cactus already did it so maybe something from James Gang or Thin Lizzy

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Well, Wright's dead (R.I.P.).
Then my vote goes Genesis
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Gentle Giant would be nice.
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Originally posted by Evan Evan wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands.  I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past.  More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.


Very true - though I'd argue there are a few exceptions (PFM, Camel, Kayak,  Magma) .  But most of the big names - Genesis, Yes, Van der Graaf - have been underwhelming. 

The only "dinosaur" that would have me rushing out to buy the album is Camel, and from the looks of things Latimer might be heading back to the studio once he recuperates for a little bit longer. Big smile

Now that you mention it, Stati Di Immaginazione was quite good.
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Ten Years After with Alvin Lee
 
Cream.
 
Rolling Stones with Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman.
 
Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, John McVie, Mick Fleetwood
 
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Gryphon. I heard rumours that they reunited; is that true?


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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 06:36
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Gryphon. I heard rumours that they reunited; is that true?

Yes its true.



You heard rumours.






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Originally posted by Evan Evan wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands.  I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past.  More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.


Very true - though I'd argue there are a few exceptions (PFM, Camel, Kayak,  Magma) .  But most of the big names - Genesis, Yes, Van der Graaf - have been underwhelming. 

The only "dinosaur" that would have me rushing out to buy the album is Camel, and from the looks of things Latimer might be heading back to the studio once he recuperates for a little bit longer. Big smile

I don't agree about VdGG; their two albums after the reunion were excellent; I especially love the improvisational disk of "Present" (though I am aware I am pretty alone there), but also the composed songs.  At first only "Every Bloody Emperor" and "Nutter Alert" stay in the ear, but now I think that "Abandon Ship!" is the best of them; a fantastic song and an amazing self-ironical statement. The staggering rhythm as the "heptagenarians" get behind their desks really makes me laugh.
I don't agree about Camel either, but they never have been overwhelming for me in the first place. They lack the necessary bite for me.


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A new Genesis album from the classic lineup would be a deception, I foretell: it will feel like getting Liebfraumilch when you expect Château d'Yquem. Exit Genesis.

On a new Pink Floyd album Richard Wright will be sorely missed. Exit Pink Floyd.

I would be surprised if ELP would sound as inspired as they did in the first half of the 70's, or if a new Alan Parsons Project album would be worth a listen.

Camel has the ability to produce reliable symphonic prog throughout the years, but they released a studio album in 2002. Maybe Comus, Gryphon or Led Zeppelin would give us some surprise, but I tend to expect more from more recent bands, so I don't give a vote...


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Points: 37399 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2009 at 09:42
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Gryphon. I heard rumours that they reunited; is that true?


They reunited for a reunion gig: http://www.gaudela.net/gryphon/ and there was talk of a new album.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=56983

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In September 2007 it was announced on Gryphon's website that, after a silence of 31 years, the band had finally decided to produce a new album. Whether the new Gryphon album will be a modern progressive and commercial sounding offering like their later albums, or a return to the predominantly medieval-based themes of their earlier works, has yet to be announced. Whilst there was no timescale planned, it was envisaged that it would be released in the Summer of 2008 with a one-off London concert date also suggested, although not confirmed. On 15 September 2008, Gryphon announced via their website that the album was still in production "albeit slowly".

On Saturday 6th June 2009 Gryphon performed a reuniun concert at The Queen Elizabeth Hall, London. The four original members - Richard Harvey, Brian Gulland, Graeme Taylor and Dave Oberlé - opened the evening with a selection of songs and instrumentals from the first album Gryphon. They were then joined by Jon Davie (the final bass player who appeared on Treason) and a new member, the multi-instrumentalist and film/production music composer Graham Preskett for the rest of the evening.

http://www.myspace.com/gryphonreinstated

I would've loved to go to the concert.  I wonder what happened with the album?



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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by Evan Evan wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I've pretty much moved on from fossil bands.  I'm kind of skeptical that any of them have anything new to say progwise that would ever surpass what they did in the past.  More than enough good stuff by new artists happening these days.


Very true - though I'd argue there are a few exceptions (PFM, Camel, Kayak,  Magma) .  But most of the big names - Genesis, Yes, Van der Graaf - have been underwhelming. 

The only "dinosaur" that would have me rushing out to buy the album is Camel, and from the looks of things Latimer might be heading back to the studio once he recuperates for a little bit longer. Big smile

Now that you mention it, Stati Di Immaginazione was quite good.


I don't know why Stati di Immaginazione did so little for me -- too ambient for me perhaps?  I preferred Dracula Opera Rock.
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Gentle giant would definitely be kool...
 
I keep hearing about a possible new album from Gryphon
 
I would love to see that as well.
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Let me see
 
  1. Genesis: No way they would rescue the magic of the 70's, Tony Banks and Phil Collins are on another thing and don't see them able to keep the track of Peter and Steve.
  2. Pink Floyd: Seems as the logic alternative because both Gilmour and Waters are active, but.....Would they be able to work without Rick as Pink Floyd
  3. ELP: No way, they gone from bad to worst, their last release Brain Sald Perjury with 9 versions of Fanfare for the Common Man with 9 DJs is probably the worst thing I heard, don't expect nothing from them, since Works II
  4. APP: Even worst, after Pyramids they only released good POP albums but nothing trascendental, and never were in he level of the three previous bands.
  5. Gentle Giant: Never cared for them in their days of glory, much less would I care for reunion.

I'd rather save the good memories of them.

Iván


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Originally posted by ten years after ten years after wrote:

Ten Years After with Alvin Lee
 
Cream.
 
Rolling Stones with Mick Taylor and Bill Wyman.
 
Peter Green, Danny Kirwan, John McVie, Mick Fleetwood
 
 
Great choices! Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac would be something from heaven

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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Let me see
 
  1. Genesis: No way they would rescue the magic of the 70's, Tony Banks and Phil Collins are on another thing and don't see them able to keep the track of Peter and Steve.
  2. Pink Floyd: Seems as the logic alternative because both Gilmour and Waters are active, but.....Would they be able to work without Rick as Pink Floyd
  3. ELP: No way, they gone from bad to worst, their last release Brain Sald Perjury with 9 versions of Fanfare for the Common Man with 9 DJs is probably the worst thing I heard, don't expect nothing from them, since Works II
  4. APP: Even worst, after Pyramids they only released good POP albums but nothing trascendental, and never were in he level of the three previous bands.
  5. Gentle Giant: Never cared for them in their days of glory, much less would I care for reunion.

I'd rather save the good memories of them.

Iván


Matter of taste, of course, and I shouldn't expect it, but is there no Gentle Giant that you like?  I would have thought that there would be some appeal, particularly with Three Friends.

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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Let me see
 
  1. ELP: No way, they gone from bad to worst, their last release Brain Sald Perjury with 9 versions of Fanfare for the Common Man with 9 DJs is probably the worst thing I heard, don't expect nothing from them, since Works II
  2. Gentle Giant: Never cared for them in their days of glory, much less would I care for reunion.
Iván

I applaud you for listening to that ELP so I can be spared. LOL
Gentle Giant? Gentle Giant?, you don't like GG?  What'sthehellamattawitchyou? Tongue
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