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Mr ProgFreak 
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 Posted: June 12 2009 at 12:47 |
^ I was going to say that, since it inspired me to post about the Blind Guardian album. One line of the lyrics is "She, the mistress of her own lust". 
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aapatsos
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 16:23 |
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 16:26 |
Unfortunately, I was not very impressed by Blind Guardian's album  ... I suppose it's just a matter of personal taste. I don't think it captures the spirit of The Silmarillion at all, but perhaps it's just me.
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 16:36 |
^ oh well... 
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 16:37 |
I don't expect everyone to love this album ... IMO people will either love or hate it, and I'm fine with both.
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 16:39 |
No, Mike, I can't say I HATE it... It just didn't do much for me, though I understand why many people love it. Anyway, if it can be of any consolation to all of you BG fans  , I don't believe any musician has captured the atmosphere of Tolkien's work effectively. I have heard Bo Hansson's record, and was not particularly impressed either.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 16:43 |
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I don't think they tried to capture the atmosphere of the book ... they're a metal band, and they combined the style they had been developing for several years with some of the stories from the book. It's very sophisticated too ... you definitely need several spins to grasp all the little details in the music.
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 17:31 |
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Chris S
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 18:57 |
The Silmarillion.................the immensity of the First Age almost dwarfs ( no pun intended) the other works. I think Christopher Tolkien had a large role to play in the finishing off of this epic, hence the style different to LOTR. The tale of Beren and Luthien perhaps the best love story ever told too.
Unfinished Tales is also incredible
Tolkiens version of the Universe, God, The Music of the Ainur that help form Arda ( Earth), The tales of the Valar versus their errant Melkor just mindblowing. And that is not even touching on Hildorien and the beginning of the Firstborn - The Elves , and their journey West. Great insight also to the origin of the Istari ( wizards), the lienage of the Elves and how it fits/meshes up to the Fourth Age in LOTR.
Smith of Wooten Major excellent too.
What a thread!!!
Raff, very impressed by your history of event and involvement 
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<font color=Brown>Music - The Sound Librarian
...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR]
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 19:01 |
Thanks ! Unfortunately, my experience with the Italian Tolkien fans was quite negative (ended up in an unpleasant bout of backstabbing), therefore I have lost a lot of my original interest. Hopefully it will come back again some time in the future.
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Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:07 |
 Raff wrote:
Thanks! Unfortunately, my experience with the Italian Tolkien fans was quite negative (ended up in an unpleasant bout of backstabbing), therefore I have lost a lot of my original interest. Hopefully it will come back again some time in the future. |
A bit of Grima and Curunir in the ranks 
For anyone really interested in more of Tolkien's world I would encourage you to get the Encyclopedia of Arda - An Interractive online guide to Tolkien's works
Excellent resource or the book - The Complete Tolkien Companion
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I just found this website which is similar (I presume) to the Encyclopedia....
http://www.glyphweb.com/arda
very very impressive...
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Chris S
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 06:40 |
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Talking about music related to Tolkien I would have to say Bo Hansson's Lord of The Rings is the best I have come across. Reminds me a bit of MO's Tubular Bells in that it is not perfect and rough around the edges but it flows pretty much for 40 minutes starting with the Shire and ending at Mithlond ( Havens) For 1972 it is incredibly accurate IMO in depicting moods and scenes. Check out ' Council of Elrond' and the " Ring Goes South'
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 06:43 |
aapatsos wrote:
I just found this website which is similar (I presume) to the Encyclopedia....
http://www.glyphweb.com/arda
very very impressive...
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 That's the one.
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<font color=Brown>Music - The Sound Librarian
...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR]
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 13 2009 at 06:51 |
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 05:19 |
When I read tLotR for the first of many times in the early Seventies it had a cult status that made you feel cool to carry it around - heck, you'd see people with it at gigs and festivals for Chrissakes.
I've found it quite enduring, but I'm putting on the flameproof suit 'cos I find the Elvish language parts positively, erm, er, there's no other way to say it: masturbatory and unnecessary; patronising even.
I love this book, you're immersed in a different world in a way even the best sci-fi cannot emulate, IMO. The Hobbit is a "good story" but like I guess a lot of people I read it after tLotR and it didn't compare on the same level.
I tried real hard with Silmarillion, but just couldn't get into it. Unfortunately i virtually speed read (it's a curse, not a gift, especially when it comes to fiction) and I didn't find much in it to grab me.
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Posted: June 16 2009 at 23:37 |
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I've only read the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings books, though I have Children of Hurin, and I think we have a copy of Silmarillion around the house somewhere, both of which have been on my list to read for a while. Unfortunately I recently discovered Vonnegut and Philip Dick and Jonathan Lethem and Jonathan Carroll and I'm still working through the Dune series and...well, I've got a lot of reading to do. Of the two I've read though, I really can't say I like one more than the other. I've always considered the Hobbit to be part of the same story as the main trilogy, so in my eyes they're one work rather than two. No vote from me yet.
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The Runaway
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 08:11 |
I actually picked The Hobbit.
Even though my name is named after a character from Lord of the Rings I still think we owe it all to The Hobbit, and maybe the Silmarillion is part of the Middle-Earth series, but I still prefer The Hobbit if I had to pick an influential one.
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Posted: June 17 2009 at 08:54 |
1. The Lord of the Rings
2. The Hobbit
3. The Silmarillion
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