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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:18
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Magma.

I keep listening though. Sometimes things "click".


I mean Magma fans can't be wrong....can they?


It's not about the fans, and detractors, being wrong or right -- though the fans know Magma more, of course.  It's a matter of taste (styles preferred) and experience.  It's been one of the most important discoveries for me musically, but that doesn't mean that it should be similar for you. There's no bands/ album that everyone should like.  I don't like Spock's Beard and The Flower Kings, but different strokes for different folks -- can't say I've listened to that much of either's stuff because I'm not interested.

But it's different for me, if something clicks I find much more that clicks later, and the appreciation deepens.  Then later on after being into it it might stop clicking altogether as I've moved on to other music and styles.

 Which albums/ tracks have you listened to, and what things click?  For instance, I could imagine someone really enjoying Retrospective 1-2 who doesn't much like Kobaia.  I love both.

EDIT: Just remembered that you started a fairly lively Magma topics four years ago (when you were a fresh noob to the world of Magma).  Topic: Magma? It's a good read.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:22
Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Rush. I never understood all the fuss about them. Good musicians, though not as exceptional as their fans try to make them, but the music is nothing special at all.
C'mon people lighten up......................I am a huge Rush fan yet I say no problem with this POV.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:23
VDGG and Dream Theatre - given up sorry....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:28

Emerson, Lake, and Palmer I find highly pretentious, allthough they did produce 3 sides of good material before permanently going of into stuff I can't get in to.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:28
Iron Maiden and Metallica
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:41
Gentle Giant
VDGG
Mars Volta
Pink Floyd
ELP
Simphony X
Fates Warning
Pain Of Salvation
Mahavishnu Orchestra

that's about it, for now...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:42
The 3 M's of doom Tongue:
Magma
The Mars Volta
Mastodon

Ayreon
IQ
Marillion (they're ok but the rave reviews for them are incomprehensible to me, maybe I don't get their lyrics, not huge on lyrics anyway)
The Tangent (I thought I'd like this one, but it's just kind of boring in all honesty)
Robert Wyatt
Eloy
Kraftwerk
Amon Duul II (not even close to the best Krautrock band)
Pain of Salvation (pretty godawful... no, not just Scarsick)
Fates Warning
The Decemberists (I don't know what to say really, people have been crooning over this band lately... there's nothing special here at all, I'd like to hear someone who likes them try to describe what it is exactly that's good about them, that would be interesting)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:59
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

There are a few that I can understand why I don't like them, King Crimson, Jethro Tull and Van der Graaff Generator to name a few of the classics.  They're either too folksy or eclectic for my tastes.

The one that I truly don't understand is Yes.  I don't care for Yes and I don't know why.  I absolutely love Genesis and most symphonic music, but I've tried time and time again to appreciate Yes but it just doesn't happen.


What albums have you heard from Yes? I'm sure you've heard their classics, but I'm really curious, since you pretty much adore The Flower Kings, both do share stuff.


I either have own or have stolen my father's copies of many of the classics:

Close to the Edge
Relayer
Tales from Topographic Oceans
The Yes Album
Fragile
Union
The Ladder
Yes

Huh, something just occurred to me, maybe I need to pick up a remastered version of something.  Eh, maybe I'll pick  up the most recent remaster of Close to the Edge and see if that helps.  By all means, I should like Yes, I just don't know what it is.

The only concrete thought is that I may not like Chris Squire's playing.  I have Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe and love it.

Eh, it's a mystery to me.

Marillion, for a long time was a similar enigma to me though I'm starting to appreciate them a bit more.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 21:04
Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

There are a few that I can understand why I don't like them, King Crimson, Jethro Tull and Van der Graaff Generator to name a few of the classics.  They're either too folksy or eclectic for my tastes.

The one that I truly don't understand is Yes.  I don't care for Yes and I don't know why.  I absolutely love Genesis and most symphonic music, but I've tried time and time again to appreciate Yes but it just doesn't happen.


What albums have you heard from Yes? I'm sure you've heard their classics, but I'm really curious, since you pretty much adore The Flower Kings, both do share stuff.


I either have own or have stolen my father's copies of many of the classics:

Close to the Edge
Relayer
Tales from Topographic Oceans
The Yes Album
Fragile
Union
The Ladder
Yes

Huh, something just occurred to me, maybe I need to pick up a remastered version of something.  Eh, maybe I'll pick  up the most recent remaster of Close to the Edge and see if that helps.  By all means, I should like Yes, I just don't know what it is.

The only concrete thought is that I may not like Chris Squire's playing.  I have Anderson, Bruford, Wakeman and Howe and love it.

Eh, it's a mystery to me.

Marillion, for a long time was a similar enigma to me though I'm starting to appreciate them a bit more.




ConfusedYou don't like Squire, but you do like Reingold and Roine's brother bass playing? Wow, that's strange, since both took a lot from Chris...

Try Disc 1 from Tales From Topographic Oceans to work with.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 21:13
Putting my helmet....
 
  1. King Crimson after ITCOTCK and Red as an exception
  2. Gentle Giant
  3. VDGG
  4. Camel: Better than valium to sleep, well I like Moonmadness
  5. Henry Cow: Like sanskrit to me

Now throw the stones, I protected my head. LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 21:40
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Putting my helmet....
 
  1. King Crimson after ITCOTCK and Red as an exception
  2. Gentle Giant
  3. VDGG
  4. Camel: Better than valium to sleep, well I like Moonmadness
  5. Henry Cow: Like sanskrit to me

Now throw the stones, I protected my head. LOL

Iván


Nothing wrong with that.  I prefer post ItCotCK albums, particularly Larks' Tongues in Aspic.  I like GG's first eight studio albums, particularly Acquiring the Taste, and Playing the Fool is very good I think, but don't like the final three studio albums.  With VdGG I really like several albums -- Godbluff partiualarly these days, but still have some problem with Hammill's histrionics at times.  I started with "House with no Door" and it was love at first listen.  I find Camel rather boring too, that said the band has some material I really like: Snow Goose is my favourite, and then Mirage, and Moonmadness I don't care for so much.  Not bad, but lacking.  I don't own the debut.  AMongst bands sometimes classified as Canterbury Scene, it's my least liked.  Henry Cow is one of my favourites.  Which Henry Cow albums have you heard, Ivan?  Not that I'd expect you to like any of them.  I did have some trouble warming up to Western Culture at first -- took some patience.  The band would hardly be for everyone.  If you were a Canterbury Scene lover then I'd recommend early Cow.  If you were more into RIO/Avant then later.  Not something I'd generally recommend to nympho, erm, symphomaniacs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 21:40
King Crimson - for a while I got into Three of a Perfect Pair, but when I tried to go back through their catalog, I couldn't find a minute of music that I enjoyed. Far too dissonant and disjointed for my taste, although I am a big fan of each of the musicians individually...

Genesis - I do appreciate the Peter Gabriel era stuff, and I love watching the old footage of their live performances - but to sit down and listen to, there's not a whole lot that I really enjoy...

Gentle Giant, Marillion and Dream Theater - I keep coming back to them once in a while to see if anything strikes me, but as of yet there's nothing that's grabbed me...

I don't think any of these bands are bad, and I would never stoop to the low level of accusing their fans of having bad taste...they just haven't appealed to me for whatever intangible reasons...So, I guess I can say that I appreciate all of them, but don't necessarily enjoy them enough to make an effort to listen to them...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 21:44
The Flower Kings
Magma (I can appreciate their music, but I don't really properly enjoy it though)
Pain of Salvation
IQ
Tangerine Dream
Marillion
Transatlantic
Ayreon

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 22:21
OK, I'll play along nicely, these are artists that I have in my collection, but just a single album and I am not interested in exploring further.  I'll reserve the right to do so in the future if I'm in the mood to:

Flower Kings
Spock's Beard
Hmmm, that's actually it.

No particular reason, nothing against them, sometimes it's a matter of time and timing.
The two albums I have still come up in listening circulation, and who knows, maybe one day?
Most other popular prog bands I've tried, though there's many I haven't.  Can't pass judgment on what you haven't really listened to, yet many do.



Edited by Slartibartfast - June 12 2009 at 22:32
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 00:16
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

 
I've taken a couple listens to Mekanik Destruktiw Kommandoh, and I have to say that it hasn't helped me appreciate Magma at all. So far to me it only sounds like weird chanting and singing. I'm not reviewing the album though until I feel I 'get' what all their fans are raving about.
 


That's what also happened to me. I can't understand why people recommend MDK as a starting point for Magma. It's very abstract and the chorus sings very agressive. Not a pleasant experience at all. But then it all changed when I got K.A., their latest album from 2004. It's wonderful! A lot of melody and passion, and very enjoyable overall. There's even of large portion of superb fusion on that record. Two weeks ago I saw them live and they were fabulous. It seems indeed they're in great shape in the 00s.

Up till now there is only one band which I couldn't get into, CAN. But every time this happened to me I could get over the issue after multiple listens or different approach of the discography. I suppose next time will be easier, like it always is.
 
That's strange, cause there was a thread recently where most people pretty much concurred that any album except for Attakh and Merci were a great introduction to Magma's sound. I listened to MDK again today and I think it's like my 4th listen. To be honest it seems like an endless tribal chant/prog thing with lots of 7/8. If I listen to it 'from a distance' (for lack of a better phrase) by not focusing on the more primal aspects of the music including the weird made-up-language it sounds kind of cool, and almost like a Broadway tune or something to me, though it's hardly mind blowing.
 
I might give them another try if I have the chance, though there really isn't any point in spending money on music that leaves me dissaffected, regardless if the person next to me is left breathless.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 03:31

1-dream theatre

2-vdgg

3-gentle giant

4-zappa

5-flower kings (from stardust we are)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 03:40
Originally posted by mobby mobby wrote:

1-dream theatre

2-vdgg

3-gentle giant

4-zappa

5-flower kings (from stardust we are)



THEATER.
THEATER
not theatre.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 03:49
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Putting my helmet....
 
  1. King Crimson after ITCOTCK and Red as an exception
  2. Gentle Giant
  3. VDGG
  4. Camel: Better than valium to sleep, well I like Moonmadness
  5. Henry Cow: Like sanskrit to me

Now throw the stones, I protected my head. LOL

Iván


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 03:50
For me:

VDGG
The Beatles (if they count)
Camel
Between the Buried and Me
Godspeed You! Black Emperor
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 04:35
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Putting my helmet....
 
  1. King Crimson after ITCOTCK and Red as an exception
  2. Gentle Giant
  3. VDGG
  4. Camel: Better than valium to sleep, well I like Moonmadness
  5. Henry Cow: Like sanskrit to me

Now throw the stones, I protected my head. LOL

Iván


Well, I'm shocked, you practically hate Eclectic. ConfusedLOL
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