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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2009 at 21:51
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

The missus is from Kansas.  She moved to get away from the flatness and the wind.  The Flint Hills are okay, but try the northwestern corner of the state - it's very different from typical Kansas topography.
 
As to the band, well I think their terrific,  Clap even though the friend who turned me on to them many years ago now compares them to Vogon poetry.  He's wrong.
 
My favorite albums are:
Leftoverture:  They clearly had a hard rock and poppish bent, and wrote many short songs for their previous albums, most of which were overlooked, and justifiably so IMHO.  Leftoverture was when those pop aspirations came up to their prog aspirations.  A deserved hit for them.  And I don't mean Ouch.
Song for America:  Much better than the albums that sandwich it.  They matured as a band after their first album and it really showed.
Somewhere to Elsewhere:  Great return to form and lineup.
Monolith:  This one is not greatly appreciated on this site, and I can understand why.  It is not spectacular, but the band is in good form, and I like a lot of the songs.  FYI: The name Kansas comes from the Kansa indians.  The name means "People of the South Wind."  Being part Native American myself, I'm always glad to see the first nations get some appreciation and notice.
 
My most vivid memory is seeing them live during the Vinyl Confessions tour.  I wasn't so into the album, but I wanted to see them perform.  I had a good time and enjoyed it, but unfortunately they weren't at their best.  Steve Walsh was a bit under the weather.  He played well, but his signature stage antics were almost completely absent.  Robby Steinhardt tried to make up for it, but it wasn't the same.  What really effected me though, was the music played in between acts.  Alvin Lee opened, and he ripped the place apart.  During the break, Heaven and Hell by Vangelis was played.  I'd never heard it before.  This was before Chariots of Fire.  I was floored.  Vangelis has been one of my absolute favorites for years now.  So, I can thank Kansas for turning me on to Vangelis.  Who'd a thunk it?


Great post.  Kansas turned me onto Yes.  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2009 at 22:16

Kansas turned me on to Jethro Tull (long story); anyway, now I'm a drooling Prog Folk fanatic - go figure!

Still a Kansas fanboy though Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 20 2009 at 23:45
I just listened to Monolith within the last couple of weeks and it's still one of my favorites. I think it was the first one that I actually purchased with my own money on vinyl back in the day. Great tracks and Walsh's vocals were so powerful. Then again, one of my favorite vocal performances was on "Reason To Be", which is simply beautiful.

"On The Other Side" is up there as one of their best tracks ever. Love that tune!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 11 2009 at 13:19
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Don't know, Bob, but it's my desktop now.

It was previously the centerpiece of The Point of Know Return Album....time for a change.
 
I have a signed artists proof of the cover of POKR (one of 7) framed and hanging on my wall. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 10:45
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Anyway, I think Steve Walsh should get way more love than he does as a vocalist. He hardly ever gets mentioned in those terminally boring 'best prog singer' polls, which is almost criminal IMHO.


Not to mention the fact he's one hell of a Hammond player too, with a style (and sound) not dis-similar to a certain Keith Emerson.

Indeed. The solo in "The Pinnacle" is one of my favourite Hammond solos, and it does sound a bit like Emerson in few spots.

Also, let's not forget his superb vibe playing on "Leftoverture".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 10:51
+++note to self+++

'Two For The Show' very loud on iTouch in car on way home

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 11:09
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

 
My most vivid memory is seeing them live during the Vinyl Confessions tour.  I wasn't so into the album, but I wanted to see them perform.  I had a good time and enjoyed it, but unfortunately they weren't at their best.  Steve Walsh was a bit under the weather.  He played well, but his signature stage antics were almost completely absent. . 
 
Must have been another tour, Steve Walsh left Kansas before Vinyl Confessions  when the band had only two songs and was replaced by John Elefante.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 11:21
Originally posted by St.Cleve Chronicle St.Cleve Chronicle wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Anyway, I think Steve Walsh should get way more love than he does as a vocalist. He hardly ever gets mentioned in those terminally boring 'best prog singer' polls, which is almost criminal IMHO.


Not to mention the fact he's one hell of a Hammond player too, with a style (and sound) not dis-similar to a certain Keith Emerson.

Indeed. The solo in "The Pinnacle" is one of my favourite Hammond solos, and it does sound a bit like Emerson in few spots.

Also, let's not forget his superb vibe playing on "Leftoverture".


Steve Walsh's Glossolalia comes highly recommended.  I think I prefer it to anything Kerry Livgren did solo, which is really saying something coming from me.  That album is so full of heart and heartbreak.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 12:36
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

The missus is from Kansas.  She moved to get away from the flatness and the wind.  The Flint Hills are okay, but try the northwestern corner of the state - it's very different from typical Kansas topography.

My mother's side of the family is from Kansas going back about 150 years or so (Clay Center area, not all that far from where Kerry Livgren lives).  I went to a couple years of high school there, then later a couple years of college, then later was stationed there for a couple of years when I was in the Marine Corps.  Can't seem to get away from that damn flat craphole of a state Confused
 
I used to think my favorite Kansas album was Monolith, but part of that is probably due to timing since it came out the summer before my last year of high school.  I have many fond memories of lazy summer days cruising around Doo-Dah from Derby to Hutchinson to Parsons (had a girlfriend there for a while) jamming to PoKR, Leftoverture and Monolith.  Any more though I'd say their overall best work was on Leftoverture, although Song for America is probably the proggiest.  PoKR has the best lyrics (Kerry's anyway), and Audio-Visions has the strongest Walsh presence.  Two for the Show (especially with the bonus disc on the remastered version) is still one of the greatest live albums of any genre I've ever heard.
 
Too bad they are resigned to being an oldies act on the county fair tour these days.  The last three times I've seen them were all at fairs.  Kerry proved with Proto-Kaw that he can still make great music; Walsh has done some outstanding solo work but isn't committed to the band anymore - I'm pretty sure he's only still touring for the money and because he feels an obligation to Phil Ehart for bailing him out of a mess when he wrapped his SUV around a pole in downtown Atlanta and had a drunk-driving and possession charge several years ago.  I wish the rest of them luck on the whole Native Window thing; don't believe that will go as far as Proto-Kaw did, but you never know.
 
Also hope Steinhardt reappears somewhere, someday while he still has something left in the tank (assuming he does).  I never had a chance to hear any of the Steinhardt-Moon stuff from after he left the band the first time and it's impossible to find today, but I'm sure he'd have plenty of interested fans if he did something like that again.  Not likely though, I suppose.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 13:02
I appreciate Kansas.  Yeah.
Awesome violin work, even though I only have their greatest hits and their first album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 13:19
Originally posted by Calculate900 Calculate900 wrote:

I appreciate Kansas.  Yeah.
Awesome violin work, even though I only have their greatest hits and their first album.


More Kansas would do you good.  If you like the first album, get the five or so that came after that.  Then see if you can get your hands on Somewhere to Elsewhere (am I the only one who absolutely LOVES that album?).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 13:22
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Calculate900 Calculate900 wrote:

I appreciate Kansas.  Yeah.
Awesome violin work, even though I only have their greatest hits and their first album.


More Kansas would do you good.  If you like the first album, get the five or so that came after that.  Then see if you can get your hands on Somewhere to Elsewhere (am I the only one who absolutely LOVES that album?).


I guess you are. I really like it though Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 14:03
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Calculate900 Calculate900 wrote:

I appreciate Kansas.  Yeah.
Awesome violin work, even though I only have their greatest hits and their first album.


More Kansas would do you good.  If you like the first album, get the five or so that came after that.  Then see if you can get your hands on Somewhere to Elsewhere (am I the only one who absolutely LOVES that album?).


Absolutely not. Big smile  It was great to hear all the old guys working together again. 

Originally posted by Garion81 Garion81 wrote:

 
I have a signed artists proof of the cover of POKR (one of 7) framed and hanging on my wall. 
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I can appreciate that.


Edited by Slartibartfast - June 12 2009 at 20:09
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 18:18
[/QUOTE] Somewhere to Elsewhere (am I the only one who absolutely LOVES that album?).
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Really like that album, MUCH better than I expected it to be!

Monolith and Leftoverture are probably my favs overall.

On the other side is still one of my fav Kansas tunes too;)  Reason to be is the perfect ending to Monolith with Walsh's voices sounding simply unreal, not bad for their first try at producing as a band!!!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 18:41
Originally posted by ark-amps ark-amps wrote:

[/QUOTE=Epignosis] Somewhere to Elsewhere (am I the only one who absolutely LOVES that album?).


Really like that album, MUCH better than I expected it to be!

Monolith and Leftoverture are probably my favs overall.

On the other side is still one of my fav Kansas tunes too;)  Reason to be is the perfect ending to Monolith with Walsh's voices sounding simply unreal, not bad for their first try at producing as a band!!!

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Yes!  Monolith is a great album.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:15
Monolith kind of sits in the shadow of Point Of Know Return for me.  I got the LP when it was first released but over the years, particularly into the CD age, I lost interest in it.  Still had to get the CD eventually, though.Big smile  One of those albums that really brings me back to time the I was listening to it a lot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 12 2009 at 20:18
First prog band I ever got into in 1975.  Self-titled first album Side B (vinyl) has the best prog songs on that album.  Lamplight Symphony and Incomudro from Song for America are classic American 1970s prog anthems...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 03:36
in my fav bands top 5..first heard kansas back in mid eighties and never looked back..great band with some of the best musicians in rock..think livgren is a gifted composer (although i dont pay much attention to his more religious lyrics as 'preaching' and religion in art turn me off big time..but the music more than makes up for the sometimes 'cheesy get closer to god' lyrics..
also think phil ehart is a fantastic but underrated drummer..one of the best in the biz..
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2009 at 09:49
I agree with mobby about the composing and excellent musicianship in Kansas, but the lyrics are a big part of what makes that band stand above the rest for me;)

Kerry Livgren is by far my fav composer and lyricist, I also happen to know the man through a business relationship (FireWire Strings)and have hung out with him at a NAMM show and shared lot's of email 's through the years. The man lives what he writes about, there is no doubt about that!"

Phil Ehart is probably my overall fav drummer too!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2009 at 13:26
By the way, does Livgren have Swedish roots? His name sounds like it.
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