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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 18:48
Stoney, get Frequency! IQ's so much more in-form than Marillion right now.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 18:54
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Stoney, get Frequency! IQ's so much more in-form than Marillion right now.


I've been listening to it for a few months brah. I think it's probably IQ's worst release since Nomozomo/Are You Sitting Comfortably. I am disappoint. Ouch
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 18:54
I must get Frequency too!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 18:56
Now I remember why I don't visit often...
 
It makes me buy even more albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 18:59
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Stoney, get Frequency! IQ's so much more in-form than Marillion right now.


I've been listening to it for a few months brah. I think it's probably IQ's worst release since Nomozomo/Are You Sitting Comfortably. I am disappoint. Ouch


Gasp!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:02
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:08
Well, it's not. I've listened to Seventh House, Dark Matter and Frequency in a row, just to get a bigger picture, and while it changes or embraces nothing unexpected, it's (at least) just as potent. Some tracks from it are da bomb, but the whole album, at least now on the first listen, keeps me under current.

So it's good to my ears. Ever still pawns the galaxy from the comeback 90s to present time, followed by Dark Matter, no worries there.

Hm...though, if I shall conclude that Seventh House is also better than Frequency, then it will indeed be lowest to every IQ except Nomzamo and Are You Kidding Me?, even if miles away distance, and incomparable. Geek
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:09
I don't think those two are that bad, either. They're both probably 2.5-3/5 from me. Nothing to scoff at.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:12
Hm... for the sake of personal amusement, I'm going to rate all the Peter Hammill albums I've got in my midnight revision break... since I'm not showing my face in my thread until I've got another review done (I'm halfway through four of them LOL), you guys get to suffer it. Ahahahaha... Ermm

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Fool's Mate - a charming pop debut from Hammill, complete with a superb list of guest musicians and a proudly eclectic range of influences. Imperial Zeppelin. 2/3.
Chameleon In The Shadow Of The Night - my all-time favourite singer-songwriter album with a Van Der Graaf Generator epic tagged on the end: unusual, bold and so, so beautiful. Slender Threads comes to mind, but any'll do. 4/5.
The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage - perhaps Hammill's first really independent and confident solo material, rarely matched for intensity, eclecticism and sheer passion. The Lie, maybe. 5/5.
In Camera - another bold step in the progressive rock realm, with some mindbogglingly deep electronic instrumentation, a more personal lyrical style; a self-assured departure from work with Van Der Graaf Generator. Gog, I think. 5/5.
Nadir's Big Chance - and, in the department of many surprises, what I've heard called the first British punk album; idiosyncratic pop and rock songs with particularly strong performances from Guy Evans and David Jaxon. Nadir's Big Chance. 3/4.
Over - and it hits you; Hammill's break-up album is evidently going to be a love/hate matter, but the introduction of the excellent Graham Smith, the incredible orchestral centrepiece This Side Of The Looking Glass and the piercing passion of Hammill's voice make this a must have. Lost And Found. 4/4.
The Future Now - an acquired taste, if there ever was one; this album features Peter Hammill taking on the world, with a new depth to his mass harmonies and a synthesis of his weird sound-experiments and real 'songs' that is as interesting to fans as it is seemingly baffling for the casual listener. The Mousetrap (Caught In). 3/4.
pH7 - Hammill's obtusely titled 8th solo album sees Hammill pushing his voice to new oddities and picking up the sticks... as well as a shift from masterful lyrical phrasing to a more direct meaning, this one really runs as a transition for later stuff, but nonetheless, a bloody good transition, remarkable for David Jaxon's sax and flute work, in particular. Mr X (Gets Tense). 3/4.
A Black Box - Hammill enters the 80s with progressive credentials not only intact but running overtime with a sidelong epic as moving and creative as much of Van Der Graaf Generator's classic material, and despite its reliance on piano and acoustic guitar, it's rich in style and arrangement; the first half is somewhat left in its shadow, but the couple of conventional rockers are compensated for with fascinating small dark electronic pieces and rich imagery. Flight, unsurprisingly. 4/4.
Sitting Targets - Hammill's first move in a real pop/rock direction, but nonetheless bafflingly odd and comprised of great songs, with especial credit for the dance rhythm segueing to a guitar solo in the title track, as well as a palpable interest in atmosphere - not for the conventional prog-is-twenty-minutes-long-and-has-a-keyboard-solo listener, but for the incessant 80s prog revisionists, a must. 4/4.
Loops And Reels - hardly even related to all of the above, Loops And Reels is an electronic album with the most unusual world music opener I've yet heard, and an odd song off A Black Box thrown in for good measure; brooding, forbidding and yet very rewarding to engage with. An Endless Breath, perhaps. 4/4, maybe pending an upgrade.
Skin - a peak for Hammill's 80s output, 1986s Skin sees Hammill coming back with both weird 'pop' songs, a contemporary set of synths and some of his most progressive work ever; mean and lean material, even with a digeridoo, Hugh Banton on Cello and a killer bonus track. Four Pails. 4/5.
And Close As This is again working with synthesisers, but in a very different context - using them to modify a single-pass-of-the-hands performance rather than in huge multi-tracked works; consequently, an experimental set of singer/songwriter work, including one tune by Keith Emerson for the trivia freaks and one of my favourite piano-and-voice-numbers ever; I do perhaps wish he'd gone a little further with the instrumentation, but that'd probably have been a mess. Too Many of My Yesterdays. A fascinating 3/3.
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Fireships sees something completely and utterly different. Calm, 'inoffensive' and very ethereal music, with programmed drums all over the place and no real break-outs... sounds like a disaster, but in fact this ends up with a full album of some of Hammill's best-written, best-sung and most subtly-arranged pieces... and you have to admit that noone has really done anything quite like it before. Gaia. 4/5.
Singularity is again, different, not surprisingly given the time gap between these albums and I did not like it one bit at first. Glad I gave it another chance, though, as the subtly written electronic work is catchy in its own way, and at times extremely striking. Strangely, I can never decide whether I like the rock song on it. Famous Last Words maybe. 4/4.

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The Margin + is the K Group's testament, perhaps, with one disc being more subtle and artistic and the other driven on by pure aggression and verve. Very oddball, not exactly even in terms of performances, but more because of the sheer force of the thing rather than inconsistent quality... the classic numbers are well re-arranged, and some of the 80s songs really gain a lot by the transition to a live context. Modern is particularly good. 4/4.
Veracious I haven't heard enough yet to judge... mneh.

Also, I listened to The Snow Goose the other day and it was really good... I mean, yes, not an unbridled masterpiece, but it got under the skin in a way that I hadn't expected it to, and I have to admit some of the guitar work is much more sophisticated than I'd thought.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:15
I've given a good listen to the first disc of DT's Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence, and I really love Disappear. It reminds me a lot of The Cure and U2. Really top track amongst some pretty bad ones.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:15
Bookmarking it, because it's already 3.15 here, and my eyes can hardly read anything anymore. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:20
Electronic Prog sucks.....*hopes he doesn't discover that*
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:22
You'll have to answer to more than Rico for that one.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:33
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Electronic Prog sucks.....*hopes he doesn't discover that*


heh, not going to work if he's bookmarking the page LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 19:35
Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Electronic Prog sucks.....*hopes he doesn't discover that*


heh, not going to work if he's bookmarking the page LOL


Ouch How stupid of me....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 22:11
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Electronic Prog sucks.....*hopes he doesn't discover that*


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 22:14
Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Originally posted by TGM: Orb TGM: Orb wrote:

Originally posted by The Quiet One The Quiet One wrote:

Electronic Prog sucks.....*hopes he doesn't discover that*


heh, not going to work if he's bookmarking the page LOL


Ouch How stupid of me....


Not a big fan of electronic myself, but I LOVE Ulver. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 22:14
Electronic Prog is talentless. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 22:18
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Electronic Prog is talentless. LOL


I wouldn't expect most people here to be capable of understanding the genre. It's for real music fans.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 10 2009 at 22:19
I'm surprised that this guy played well at yesterdays concert.
He was so drunk and high.LOL



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