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Violin is my first choice from the "other instruments". I mentioned Flying Island (both LPs) and "Last Tango" by Esperanto (two violins and a cello) but I neglected to mention Jean Luc Ponty.

I think the first album I bought featuring violin was by a band called Flock with Jerry Goodman doing the honors.

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Earlier this morning I was scrolling down the Jazz Rock/Fusion page and came across a band called If that I haven't listened to for years. I pulled out "Tea Break Over..." and heard some good sax. I also set aside "...Bunch Of Pretty Faces" and will listen to it later on today.
My LPs were carefully stored away for years. Not long ago I converted a spare bedroom into a music / album / guitar room. I alphabetized and categorized my LPs and started a process of reviewing and rating albums. Since I haven't heard most of this music in over thirty years, in a way it's like buying new albums all over again and I'm having a great time doing it.
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Originally posted by GaryB GaryB wrote:

I am a guitar player so I look for guitar oriented music first. We're currently discussing bassists on another topic. Since you can't swing a stick around Prog music without hitting a keyboardist, I would like to know what other instruments you look for in your musical choices.
I personally like electric violin which is why I look for bands like Flying Island, and I also like sax and flute. I prefer these three instruments in a more Prog Jazz style.
What are your thoughts on this subject?
 
I am of the opinion that when you hear something in your head that many times the medium is not as important as your ability to translate what it is that you see ... and that makes me think that you are trying to figure out if you want to form a band or not ...
 
First off ... a keyboard does not prog make ... and if the "definition" of the term says so ... it is a gross injustice to musicians all over the world ... there is a lot of prog that can not be classified ... because there aren't enough terms to describe something someone wants to do ... and (above all) did it!  And if you are worried about a "style" ... then you are not concentrating on your vision itself ...
 
To be remembered, not just in prog, but anywhere else, and make a name for yourself ... you have to do it different ... you can not copy anyone else ...
 
My suggestion? Dump music definitions, including prog.
 
Now see what you have left of the movie inside your head ... if it was an ideal in the first place, I'm done talking and this article is junk to you!
 
Best of luck ... and you have got to not be afraid of someone saying "it's not prog" ... who gives a sh*t, when it is great music? ... you decide!
 
 
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Since this is a thread about Other Prog instruments I won't be mentioning any guitars, Moogs or Hammonds. (Although I must mention is flute - all flute's interventions in prog music are beautiful almost without exception).

I like harp a lot. However, I don't know many prog songs utilizing it - not even within the realm of Prog Folk (they're usually dulcimers, Irish harps, Finnish harps and other ethnic variations, not the "orchestral" one). The thing is, it sounds dreamy, calm, mellow, and it's sounds is more associated with new age than prog. I would like to hear some full-blown prog act using it in an innovative way!

There's some real sweet harp on Indukti's S.U.S.A.R., even if it's more of an ornament to the music, not really a structural part of it. That would be very difficult to achieve, I think.

I also like accordion. It's so widely used in various folk musics (at least in Europe) that one has to wonder why it's not more represented in "pop", even prog. Only prog songs with accordion that I know of are using it as a joke or to add a bit of a folksy flavor. Countless folky tunes for harmonica are so bad they're vomit-inducing, but this instrument could be so expressive and explorative! Of course, there are notable artists that were doing that (mostly Italian and French), but they were doing it within jazz musc, not prog rock.

Why?

I think the accordion brings his pwn very strong sound with very strong connotations (la chansonette, balkan gipsy music) which are both very difficult to control and integrate in something with a different feel. I think that's why it's avoided. Was your band having some accordion, I think? It was well integrated if I rememeber well.




Well, many thanks, Alex!Hug It seems my band is receiving some feedback in prog community after all.
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Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Since this is a thread about Other Prog instruments I won't be mentioning any guitars, Moogs or Hammonds. (Although I must mention is flute - all flute's interventions in prog music are beautiful almost without exception).I like harp a lot. However, I don't know many prog songs utilizing it - not even within the realm of Prog Folk (they're usually dulcimers, Irish harps, Finnish harps and other ethnic variations, not the "orchestral" one). The thing is, it sounds dreamy, calm, mellow, and it's sounds is more associated with new age than prog. I would like to hear some full-blown prog act using it in an innovative way!I also like accordion. It's so widely used in various folk musics (at least in Europe) that one has to wonder why it's not more represented in "pop", even prog. Only prog songs with accordion that I know of are using it as a joke or to add a bit of a folksy flavor. Countless folky tunes for harmonica are so bad they're vomit-inducing, but this instrument could be so expressive and explorative! Of course, there are notable artists that were doing that (mostly Italian and French), but they were doing it within jazz musc, not prog rock.Why?


If you like harp, accordion, tangos, Zappa, jazz-with-a-wink and non-sentimental film music, try Edward VESALA's ODE TO THE DEATH OF JAZZ on ECM, a brilliant album.

Vesala's harpist (and real life partner) Iro Haarla has also released a solo-album, NORTHBOUND. Fascinating, but a little slow and repetitive, though definitely not New Age.
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How about the theremin?
I haven't heard it much outside of Led Zeppelin, but still.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PU-PoUwECjI
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My favorite "other" instruments are violin, saxophone, and flute. Quella Vecchia Locanda, Van der Graff Generator, and Jethro Tull are all great for these instruments, in their respective order. I hope I get to hear more harp in prog, i love the sound of it. I also like the harpsichord sound in some songs, like in Siberian Khatru, but that can be emulated.
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Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Didgeridoo.


Funny you mention it, we (Territorial Chant) use home made harps, dulcimers and tube amps in our music, soon we will be building our own guitars too;)

To me the hammer dulcimer is the ultimate dream inducing acoustic instrument!!!

Our main singer Matt Schellenberg is releasing a "solo" dulcimer CD soon, intoxicating music he makes with that thing;)

I like hearing unique instruments in art-rock when used appropriately and skillfully...

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Well, I prefer flute, clarinet, cello. And otherwise I love a brass section
like true symphony in Floyd's Atom Heart Mother track.
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I play Chapman Stick and percussion so I like anything touchstyle - Trey Gunn (Crim, TU, KTU), Guillermo Cides, Sean Malone (Cynic, Gordian Knot) and anything with percussion, preferably accoustic/organic sound i.e. PM Gong, Zappa, Henry Cow, Beefheart, Oregon...


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RE the accordion discussion: right now I'm listening to Hydria Spacefolk's "Symetria" and there's some very nicely integrated accordion on the track "Flora Fauna" Clap

How about prog with bag-pipes? Tongue
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Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:



How about prog with bag-pipes? Tongue
What?
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:



How about prog with bag-pipes? Tongue
 
French progressive band SEVEN REIZH (one of the most original on the prog scene) :
 
 
And for some prog with varied instrumentation, including accordion, FARMERS' MARKET is the best place :
 
Another prog band with diversified instrumentation : ANACRUSA
 
And the incredibly talented members of IONA also use a lot of diverse instruments, Troy Donockley is even a reference in uileann pipes !
 
 
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Sax and Flute, and everything that people think won't fit in.
Trendsetter win!

The search for nonexistent perfection.
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Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

If I hear that a band has electric guitar, sax or flute, violin AND vibraphone or marimba in it, I want to hear them immediately!


Seconded! You summed up why I like both Gong and Gentle Giant, by the way!  LOL
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Defenitely lift things up if you got more instruments than the traditional Drum- Key - guit - Bass
But im not looking for any special instrument.
 
but looking back Sax, Flute & violin been the typical additions
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Bouzouki
Lute
Mandolin
Citar
Spanish guitar
Harp
 
Hammond organ
Wurlitzer organ
Harpsichord
Clavinet
Rhodes piano
Moog
Mellotron
 
Flute
Soprano
Clarinet
Sax
 
Violin
Cello
 
There's some LOL
 
 


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^ Can you mention some prog songs with harp please? I would be interested. I only know SUSAR, Indukti's album.
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