New FREE maudlin of the Well

Epignosis wrote: avalanchemaster wrote: ^ did you donate?  I did.   No.  And I don't plan on it. However, maudlin of the Well's discography got pretty high up on my list of albums to acquire.

not that you have to necessarily justify this to me, but what is your reasoning behind NOT donating?  (especially if you hope to see their other releases to ever get reissued)

I should add that I was unaware that maudlin of the Well was out of print for the most part (hence the dearth of reviews for the first album).

But as I said, I would love to have their work.  It's too bad they (or the record company or whomever) does not make that available.

Glad somebody sees that, Liquid.

Anyway, for what its worth, I just ordered this.



Collaborator pick for 2006.  So at least Mr. Driver will be pocketing something I suppose.  And I love violin.

That's not what he said. He said he buys a few things a month. Who wants to shell out money to help produce something that they really can't say anything about, don't know anything about? Instead, he spent the money on other music, music he knew he wanted. And then following the release of Part the Second, he decided to look into more of their stuff, thus going to eBay. How is that so very evil? 

LiquidEternity wrote: That's not what he said. He said he buys a few things a month. Who wants to shell out money to help produce something that they really can't say anything about, don't know anything about? Instead, he spent the money on other music, music he knew he wanted. And then following the release of Part the Second, he decided to look into more of their stuff, thus going to eBay. How is that so very evil?

he might as well just download the other albums if that's how it's going to play out.  He's poor, let him acquire music like every other poor person.... 


No, seriously, I just don't get why he wouldn't pay to support the band.  buying an album off of ebay just supports some schmuck who is putting too high of a price on it.....  That's all I was curious about.  He seems rather against that notion for some reason.  Like I said, you wouldn't have this album without patronage of other fans (who understand the hardships of writing/producing/recording an album).

Oh well. I am not gonna convince you guys to have integrity to do such a thing.... enjoy the album either way, they worked hard on it.  And it rules!  On that we can agree?

avalanchemaster wrote: Epignosis wrote: avalanchemaster wrote: Epignosis wrote: avalanchemaster wrote: Epignosis wrote: avalanchemaster wrote: ^ did you donate?  I did.   No.  And I don't plan on it. However, maudlin of the Well's discography got pretty high up on my list of albums to acquire. not that you have to necessarily justify this to me, but what is your reasoning behind NOT donating?  (especially if you hope to see their other releases to ever get reissued) I'm poor.  I limit myself to a few acquisitions a month. That said, I have means of (legally) obtaining albums that are not readily available (I just have to patient sometimes). I think it's a bit silly to release a free album without having the other albums readily available for purchase.  It's a pointless promotion.  If I had funds, I would readily scoop up the other three. In fact, I just lost an Ebay bid at the last minute for one of theirs.  Oh that's just PRICELESS that you would bid on their other material (at most likely exorbitant prices) but you will not pay the artist for an album that they worked just as hard on!  Don't you see the hypocrisy and irony in that?  It's not silly to release a free album without the others available.  Why?  because the other albums release is controlled by their previous record label, whereas the latest free album is an endeavor that was entirely free from any record label distribution or licensing or legal entanglements.  We should be glad that a certain amount of people initially donated money to even allow the band to record and write the material.  Or were you unaware of that taking place?  Yeah.  that's how it worked.  A bunch of fans- like yours truly- donated money so that we could hear another motw album.  Is it too much to ask to donate even $5 or $1 to their cause (if you are willing to shell out crazy money for their other albums, why not this?  That makes NO f**kING SENSE AT ALL.)  If you like it, why not pay a nominal fee for it?  You can't necessarily go into a restaurant and just eat something and then walk out without paying, because you claim it wasn't as good as other restaurants....  or better yet, if they are giving away free samples and you like them (but there is a limit on the other forms of snacks by the same company), why wouldn't you pay for more, if you are willing to pay for the other snacks?  I'm sorry dude, but the "I am poor" argument is not gonna work in this case, you proved that with your admittance to bidding on their other material.  Are you at least five years old? Don't be stupid. If a band makes an album free, I take it- no regrets.  I sell mine.  I've sold about 20.  No regrets. And no, I cannot afford to pay exorbitant prices.  Nor would I.  If the other albums are controlled by another record label and I cannot purchase them, guess what? TOO BAD. I can't change that.  I would buy them at full price if I could.  maudlin of the Well must be poor businesspeople.  Music is a business. If this free album didn't come out, then  I would never know about them and would have not cared about them.  Get real.  I NEVER donate money to any artist.  If they put it out there for free, it's promotional.  This band has my attention.  Unfortunately, they don't have the goods. So, how's the business side of your music workin' for ya?  I bet nobody donates to you either....  oh and the mudslinging with regards to ageism, is just juvenile in itself.

I have given away more albums than I have sold.  That doesn't bother me.  Maybe you'll win one here.

mudslinging with regard to ageism?  I don't know what you mean.

I get it.  You can't be asked to pay up front for someone you initially know nothing about.  I guess I (incorrectly) assumed that you knew about them.  good luck finding their material.  I know I cherish my discs of theirs.

to my knowledge, they did not have a record deal to put out the new album.... and with the way much of the music industry is going, many people are happy to get downloads from the band.... I do not personally find anything wrong with downloading an album if it is out of print and impossible to find.... but that's me... otherwise, I have supported them all the way.... but then again, I have been there at the right time I suppose!

(btw, the ageism statement was in regards to you saying I was at least five.... which is pretty lame and tired if you ask me..... )


Edited by avalanchemaster - June 07 2009 at 18:32

sleeper wrote: I would like to point out, yet again, that maudlin of the Well's first album is NOT out of print yet but available for $17 off of Kayo Dots web page. I wouldnt imagine that there's too many of them left since they'e been available for 2 years and it wasnt a huge run.  I remember Driver stating when he announced the recording of Part the Second that Dark Symphonies (motW record label) were completely uninterested in the band (probably because they are officially defunct), both its new album and re-relasing the old ones, which is why PtS is a fan funded, self released, free to download album and that you still cant get Bath/Leaving Your Body Map brand new. And no, I havnt donated yet, but I intend to come the summer when I should have a bit more money.

very helpful info.  And that's cool that you plan to donate.    but I understand the lack of funds issue.....

At this juncture I felt it was important for me to interject for a second. 

Thanks Greg, for shedding light on what was possibly confused.