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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2009 at 11:18
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by darksideof darksideof wrote:

In my opinion their last great was Octavarium. All the tracks were great.

In my opinion it was a very poor album. I thought that Systematic Chaos was much improved.


Octavarium had some excellent Progressive moments, IMO. It was SC that was poor, unless you are talking from a metal standpoint.


Octavarium was the first DT album I bought since 'Six Degrees...' & even though it took me longer to get into, once I had, I loved it - not sure about later works though, as someone else said earlier, in my opinion the output is suffering from DT becoming the Petrucci/Portnoy show.

Just my opinion you understand.

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Points: 16449 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2009 at 11:37
Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by darksideof darksideof wrote:

In my opinion their last great was Octavarium. All the tracks were great.

In my opinion it was a very poor album. I thought that Systematic Chaos was much improved.

Octavarium had some excellent Progressive moments, IMO. It was SC that was poor, unless you are talking from a metal standpoint.

Personally I thought Octavarium had no excellent moments of any description, with one decent song in Scarificed Sons and the rest being rubbish. I agree with Ian in that SC was a much better album, regardless of how prog it was.
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 03 2009 at 22:28
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Originally posted by StyLaZyn StyLaZyn wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by darksideof darksideof wrote:

In my opinion their last great was Octavarium. All the tracks were great.

In my opinion it was a very poor album. I thought that Systematic Chaos was much improved.

Octavarium had some excellent Progressive moments, IMO. It was SC that was poor, unless you are talking from a metal standpoint.

Personally I thought Octavarium had no excellent moments of any description, with one decent song in Scarificed Sons and the rest being rubbish. I agree with Ian in that SC was a much better album, regardless of how prog it was.
 
I think Octavarium was a lesser album than SC, though The Root of All Evil beats anything on SC.
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I feel Sacrificed Sons was the only 'really bad' track on Octavarium. Granted, nobody seems to have admitted that they like "The Answer Lies Within" or "I Walk Beside You" and there's really no inspiration in "Never Enough", but the rest of the album seems great from my point of view. Just chop the album in half, call it Quadrivarium and you have some of DT's best work yet.Thumbs Up

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Points: 4079 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 04 2009 at 07:19
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

I feel Sacrificed Sons was the only 'really bad' track on Octavarium. Granted, nobody seems to have admitted that they like "The Answer Lies Within" or "I Walk Beside You" and there's really no inspiration in "Never Enough", but the rest of the album seems great from my point of view. Just chop the album in half, call it Quadrivarium and you have some of DT's best work yet.Thumbs Up

I quite like "I Walk Beside You". It is a great tune, even if it has hit single qualities. But I am a big fan of the title track. I think Sacrificed Sons is a good song but the lyrics are cheesy as heck. But BC&SL will suffer because DT yet again did not reach into new territory. 
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