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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:23 |
It's not pronounced as Learned in this case, Rico, it's pronounced as Learnéd.
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Ricochet
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:24 |
James wrote:
It's not pronounced as Learned in this case, Rico, it's pronounced as Learnéd.
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difference?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:27 |
Learnéd = scholarly
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Ricochet
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:31 |
James wrote:
Learnéd = scholarly
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Got it.
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Epignosis
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:37 |
English ftl.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:39 |
It's used in US English as well, Rob. Rico, it does not always mean Scholarly either though. It is often used in a court of law. The learnéd man... For instance.
Edited by James - May 29 2009 at 16:40
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Raff
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:39 |
James, I would not call Beowulf folklore, since the story is based on historical facts - it's more of an epic than a straight-up folk tale, though of course there are elements relating to the beliefs of the people at that time. An excellent introduction to the poem and its interpretations is Tolkien's essay "Beowulf: The Monsters and the Critics".
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Ricochet
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:40 |
Epignosis wrote:
English ftl.
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More ftw for Faun Fables.
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KoS
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:41 |
James wrote:
It's used in US English as well, Rob.
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Only when trying to sound like a pretentious prick.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:44 |
Raff wrote:
James, I would not call Beowulf folklore, since the story is based on historical facts - it's more of an epic than a straight-up folk tale, though of course there are elements relating to the beliefs of the people at that time. An excellent introduction to the poem and its interpretations is Tolkien's essay "Beowulf: The Monsters and the Critics".
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Yes, the programme I watched went into the elements of historical fact. The Anglo-Saxon Longboat burial at Sutton Hoo in East Anglia, the elements of Pagan and Christian beliefs and a few other things as well. However, there are elements of folklore in Beowulf still though. Grendel and his mother are sort of folklore elements themselves. Plus Beowulf slays a Dragon at the end of the poem. Dragons are most certainly a folklore element.
Edited by James - May 29 2009 at 16:46
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Ricochet
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:50 |
James wrote:
[QUOTE=Raff] However, there are elements of folklore in Beowulf still though. Grendel and his mother are sort of folklore elements themselves. Plus Beowulf slays a Dragon at the end of the poem. Dragons are most certainly a folklore element.
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Plus the tale could be perfectly turned into a ballad song, thus folklore.
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Raff
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:56 |
Ricochet wrote:
James wrote:
[QUOTE=Raff] However, there are elements of folklore in Beowulf still though. Grendel and his mother are sort of folklore elements themselves. Plus Beowulf slays a Dragon at the end of the poem. Dragons are most certainly a folklore element.
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Plus the tale could be perfectly turned into a ballad song, thus folklore.
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Dragons are a mythical element more than a strictly folkloric one. Of course, the difference is not a huge one, though myth generally relates to cosmogony (the creation and organisation of the world), and therefore has to religion. Beowulf is rooted in Northern European culture (so, not only history, but also mythology), and dragons feature quite prominently in Norse myths.
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Ricochet
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 16:57 |
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 21:53 |
5 hours with no posts? Wow.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 22:54 |
I strongly believe American's don't speak English. They speak American.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 22:59 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
Edit: and Harry, I think it was actually me, and I was complaining rather about the bass being undermixed/mainly inaudible than not being there. Still, if it's just slammed under the guitars, sometimes, that'd explain it. Anyway, I'll try your suggested thing if I can work out how to get that to work.
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But it isn't under mixed though. I have studio monitors, which are designed to be as flat as possible across the frequency range and listening through them reveal that if there was any more bass, it would sound muddy. It cannot possibly be undermixed if it would sound muddy if more bass were added.
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 23:11 |
Got my prog nation ticket!
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 23:14 |
I'm guessing so you can go see PoS and Zappa Plays Zappa.
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horsewithteeth11
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 23:18 |
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I'm guessing so you can go see PoS and Zappa Plays Zappa.
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They can't be good bands since they're from after 1989.
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Statutory-Mike
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Posted: May 29 2009 at 23:22 |
No, no, no. And btw harry, this be mike, new username !
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