Gays and Prog Rock

kenethlevine wrote: I'm another gay member, although normally I only discuss it if the topic comes up.  For instance, in a pm, when a member found out I was from Montreal, he told me I must have lots of stories about Montreal women, at which point I set him straight.      I haven't met many other fans who are gay but I am also a fan of folk music and there are more of us there.  In fact, one buddy and I often joke about how, in our perfect world, a gay vacation cruise would feature Maddy Prior (of Steeleye Span) as entertainment instead of some overwrought Streisand or Celine wannabe!  I too applaud catfood03 and hope you stick around.

Rocktopus wrote: This guy I used to know (who's a gay Residents/Kraftwerk-nutter) said that the worst part about being gay is ABBA!

I personally have no reason to think that one's sexual orientation has anything to do with one's taste in music.

I didn't like ABBA at the time, but confess I enjoy them now.  And for prog quotient, has anyone heard their song "Eagles"?

moshkito wrote: Hi,   If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!   Thx

mrcozdude wrote: moshkito wrote: Hi,   If I was the Administrator on this board ... I would have removed this topic ... as inappropriate and dis-respectful of people's personal sexual preferences, if not even relationships. I suppose that the following topic will be that they are not people, too!   Thx I don't see hows it disrespectful when the thread has been started by an openly gay man and knowone is poking fun or being homophobic. Over sensitive people piss me off.

Naw, serously get in touch with your feminine side. Understand compassion a bit more. Buy some flowery shirts. Get a facial and your nails done.

Regarding people who want an admins to close this thread, or think that it is disrespectful. Please read all the pages, this thread is suprisingly thoughtful, sensitive and downright intelligent.

I was watching this thread from the beginning and at first I thought, oh no a bunch of pointless gratuitous speculation on musicians who may or may not seem a bit 'swishy'.

Instead what has happened is a very nice and suprisingly mature (for PA, ha ha) discussion and some heart-warming frankness that makes this thread one of the coolest I have seen on PA ... ever.

Edited by Easy Money - May 29 2009 at 13:59

kenethlevine wrote: I didn't like ABBA at the time, but confess I enjoy them now.  And for prog quotient, has anyone heard their song "Eagles"?

Yes, I love "Eagle", but prog? Perhaps in the lyrics?

mrcozdude wrote: catfood03 wrote: Ha! Yup, that sounds like Zappa humor alright! I hope I'm not treading into personal territory but how do you find that humour? I love Zappa and completely understand it's irony (well I think I do a anyway) but do you find it offensive?

Okay, I went and found the complete lyrics now, which is what I should have done before my first reply to this song.

The line about "golden rain" is a bit much, because my interpretation of the song's lyrics is what is supposedly in a standard gay relationship, or what every gay man's interest is. I can tell you these practices are definitely in a minority in gay relationships, and in straight ones I'm sure. I don't know what "eat a little chain" means, but if means what I think it does, then ditto on that as well. The rest of the song doesn't offend me really, but I don't speak for all gays on this site, or everywhere, so I will let others decide for themselves.

So, yes I do have a bit of a negative opinion of this song. What can I say? Zappa had a "South Park" humor about certain topics, and I'm sure gays weren't his only push-button subjects. If he had chosen to use a  epithet, it would have pushed the lyrics way too unacceptable (like a certain talentless white rapper named after a chocolate candy).



Edited by catfood03 - May 29 2009 at 20:13

catfood03 wrote: mrcozdude wrote: catfood03 wrote: Ha! Yup, that sounds like Zappa humor alright! I hope I'm not treading into personal territory but how do you find that humour? I love Zappa and completely understand it's irony (well I think I do a anyway) but do you find it offensive? Okay, I went and found the complete lyrics now, which is what I should have done before my first reply to this song. The line about "golden rain" is a bit much, because my interpretation of the song's lyrics is what is supposedly in a standard gay relationship, or what every gay man's interest is. I can tell you these practices are definitely in a minority in gay relationships, and in straight ones I'm sure. I don't know what "eat a little chain" means, but if means what I think it does, then ditto on that as well. The rest of the song doesn't offend me really, but I don't speak for all gays on this site, or everywhere, so I will let others decide for themselves. So, yes I do have a bit of a negative opinion of this song. What can I say? Zappa had a "South Park" humor about certain topics, and I'm sure gays weren't his only push-button subjects. If he had chosen to use a  epithet, it would have pushed the lyrics way too unacceptable (like a certain talentless white rapper named after a chocolate candy).

Well, Zappa didn't shy away from offending anyone he could.  That is interesting that you would describe it as South Park humor.  You pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Good thing your aren't a Catholic Girl or a Jewish Princess or a Flake for that matter or your name is Bobby Brown.


Edited by Slartibartfast - May 29 2009 at 21:15