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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2009 at 02:08
Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

If you don't like it become an MP and change it. Surely the chances of getting into Parliament as an independent is better now than it has ever been.
The chances of an independent changing anything is pretty slim, most are elected on a single (local) cause and achieve little. A Private Member's Bill to change Gov't policy is doomed to failure.
 
Aye, but if there are enough of them, who knows? Who is going to vote for any of the main 3 at the next election?
 
Don't assume that private MPs wouldn't be/haven't been at it as well. 
 
To be honest the majority of what I've seen of this expenses scandal is people doing exactly what most people would do; getting away with what the system allows you to.  I know plenty of "honest hard working" people who "add ten miles" to their milage claims or who have no problem at all that their union has argued a whole shifts pay if they get called in for one hour when they are not rostered on shift.  To me there is no difference to most of these MP scandals.
 
Those MPs who are criminally liable for deliberately fraudulent claims (mortgages after house has gone etc) should be ousted and prosecuted immediately.  Then the system should be reformed so that the rules are rules rather than guidance and we should start again with a clean slate.  It's not really fair to persue people who didn't break the rules, even if the rules do stink.  The way to deal with those who have broken no rules but have had no restraint in milking the system is at the ballot box next time.
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2009 at 02:31
Originally posted by Neil Neil wrote:

Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

If you don't like it become an MP and change it. Surely the chances of getting into Parliament as an independent is better now than it has ever been.
The chances of an independent changing anything is pretty slim, most are elected on a single (local) cause and achieve little. A Private Member's Bill to change Gov't policy is doomed to failure.
 
Aye, but if there are enough of them, who knows? Who is going to vote for any of the main 3 at the next election?
 
Don't assume that private MPs wouldn't be/haven't been at it as well. 
 
To be honest the majority of what I've seen of this expenses scandal is people doing exactly what most people would do; getting away with what the system allows you to.  I know plenty of "honest hard working" people who "add ten miles" to their milage claims or who have no problem at all that their union has argued a whole shifts pay if they get called in for one hour when they are not rostered on shift.  To me there is no difference to most of these MP scandals.
 
Those MPs who are criminally liable for deliberately fraudulent claims (mortgages after house has gone etc) should be ousted and prosecuted immediately.  Then the system should be reformed so that the rules are rules rather than guidance and we should start again with a clean slate.  It's not really fair to persue people who didn't break the rules, even if the rules do stink.  The way to deal with those who have broken no rules but have had no restraint in milking the system is at the ballot box next time.
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Of course what we really need are professional politicians paid a wage commensurate with the position. No one in their right mind would put a bunch of amateurs in charge of a multinational company, yet we elect people with zero qualifications, no practical experience and no proven aptitude for the job to run a 2,000 billion pound "company".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 21 2009 at 03:56
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Made I chortle...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2009 at 07:59
Does anyone know what heron tastes like?
 
I had 11 fish in my pond last night - I have none now. Cry
 
If I catch the bCensoredd I'm going to cook it and eat it (or feed it to the cats) Evil Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2009 at 08:05
Hope you've got a large cat

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2009 at 08:22
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Does anyone know what heron tastes like?
 
I had 11 fish in my pond last night - I have none now. Cry
 
If I catch the bCensoredd I'm going to cook it and eat it (or feed it to the cats) Evil Smile
 
Oh sh*t but I'm not surprised. Here cometh the Heron gospel, according to St Dingo.
 
First off they're virtually parasitic bast*rds. The hotel kitchen I worked in last year backed onto the the River Bure and one particular bird - they're real loners and their territories run for miles - used to eat the scraps that fell from the bins out the back. Then it would flap over to the terrace area and allow the stupid tourists to feed it with discarded meal remains, anything. One of the waitresses used to nick rashers of bacon from the kitchen, make the blessed thing walk towards her and hand feed it with the rasher so her colleague could photograph her doing it and she'd then send the picture to her boyfriend.
 
Then the bloody thing would go to the opposite bank and wait for a tolerant fisherman to drop some maggots and gobble those up as well - orange dye and all.
 
However, a garden pond, with no covering net, is easiest of all for them. They are large birds and can just stand on the bottom and gobble everything they can find.
 
To catch your thief, IMO, is mission impossible. They actually nest low down on marshland if they can find it, or a wet field if they can't. Their courtship is akin to that you get in a brothel so you'd never find a pair.
 
They're not the Arthur Daley's of the avian species, they're the Nick Cottons. Round my way anyone with a pond lives in total and constant fear of one decimating the contents. Ironically, you are not allowed to shoot them legally, tho most people round here would, given the chance.
 
Stable door, horse bolted, but the only advice I could offer to prevent a repeat is to buy a tacky plastic one from a sh*tshop and plant it as close to the pond as you can. My pond-owning friend says this works, but don't blame me if it doesn't.
 
Finally I ain't got a clue what a cooked one might taste like, but having observed their diet and habits at first hand I'd guess: roughly the same as a Pike - which I have eaten, several times, but that's another story.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2009 at 08:49

^ I've eaten Pike - unlike most freshwater fish, it's not too muddy tasting, quite decent once it's deboned.

Oh, I know how to catch a heron, it's simple enough - just need a live eel and some string. Evil Smile
 
 
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Hope you've got a large cat
If I had a large cat the heron wouldn't have been a problem.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2009 at 08:59
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ I've eaten Pike - unlike most freshwater fish, it's not too muddy tasting, quite decent once it's deboned.

Oh, I know how to catch a heron, it's simple enough - just need a live eel and some string. Evil Smile
 
 
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Hope you've got a large cat
If I had a large cat the heron wouldn't have been a problem.
 
Should really save this for another thread, but if you just use the centre section you can eat it bone-in. And, man, if you slowly poach it with chilli, garlic... I'll post it on ProgChefs Unite later after allSmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2009 at 09:47
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I've eaten Pike




Pike: Mr Mainwaring....

Mainwaring: Don't even say it... Stupid boy!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2009 at 15:17
Don't tell him Pike!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 22 2009 at 15:20
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They don't like it up 'em (allegedly)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2009 at 09:07
New rant.
 
People who keep saying 'You know' when they are speaking. It gets right on my wick. No! I don't know! Which is why I am asking you, numpty! Whatever happened to Erm?
 
Coincidently, I saw a heron in Wakefield this morning flying along the river. Nothing in its beak as far as I could see  Wink.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2009 at 09:36
It's like, you know, when people use the word like for no apparent reason like. That really gets by back up. Angry 
 
Miraculously, later in the evening 4 fish re-appeared - no idea where they were hiding but they are now perpetually terrified. They've now got several short lengths of plastic drain pipe to hide in and I've covered the pond with a net (which I hate, but ho-hum).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 25 2009 at 17:04
Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

New rant.
 
People who keep saying 'You know' when they are speaking. It gets right on my wick. No! I don't know! Which is why I am asking you, numpty! Whatever happened to Erm?
 
Coincidently, I saw a heron in Wakefield this morning flying along the river. Nothing in its beak as far as I could see  Wink.
 
I went to a dyslexic rave recently and I saw a heron addict shooting up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2009 at 06:33
Here's your coat Chris

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2009 at 06:45
What does Chris want a goat for?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2009 at 15:59
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Or even a toga?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2009 at 07:27

"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?"
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2009 at 08:55
Originally posted by The-Bullet The-Bullet wrote:

 
Bestiality and necrophilia - how perverted is that?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 27 2009 at 09:40
OK, this is supposed to be a fun thread, but I just have to say something very serious

CIGARETTES SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN INVENTED

I have several friends at school who smoke, and for what I know they all wish they would never have started. And so do I.
I am very, very sad that so clever and so nice people have started to do something so stupid and so destructive. From many of them you could never guess. The previous revelation was today, when I found out that a really nice guy with a great taste of music is doing the previously mentioned thing. (well, he really likes the recordings I have made consisting of prog covers and a bit of my own material. Don't want this kind of habits to any of my few fans).
I suppose we are all aware of the... ehm... nasty effects of smoking. So, nothing about them, but here's a quickly written anti-smoking anthem. Sing to the heavy melody of Gentle Giant's Peel the paint with Peter Hammil-in-Man-Erg-middle-section-like voice:

(Don't know)
How often you go
to the house with the cross
but too soon you will - in a wooden box

You still have time
To save yourself
Keep your senses sharp, breathing clean air

Cyanide
and tar inside
your lungs is nothing I would call healthy

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