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Ivan_Melgar_M
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That's the point, he has selected the best albums of:
And rated them low because they are a direct competition to Pink Floyd But this is obvious YES Close to the Edge (rating only) Nº 2
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ExittheLemming
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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=212669
Now this I like, an allegorical review so cryptic that prog is hoisted by its own petard ? |
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progrules
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Yeah, it's obvious and therefor PA once invented the rules about ratings. Such ratings without review only count for 1 where a rating with review of a reliable guy like you counts for 10. Good thinking by PA !
These unfair nonsense ratings will always be there (unfortunately) and this is the way to deal with them.
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Vibrationbaby
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It`s a free world.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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But this is obvious YES Close to the Edge (rating only) Nº 2
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DamoXt7942
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Well please cool yourself down... I suggest each progger should have his opinion (whether usual or unusual), but the above ratings be kidding as everyone has said. Edited by DamoXt7942 - May 18 2009 at 01:55 |
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debrewguy
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Well, please now ... we can't have people disagreeing with what albums we see as outright fives, now can we !
So to do my part in this path to righteous views, I'm going to have to insist that everyone review & rate Klaatu's Hope AND Ange's Emile Jacotey a Five. Those who have already posted something are now able (as per M@x's recent update) to go in and make the appropriate changes. PLease hurry, as injustice cannot be allowed to reign. |
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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DamoXt7942
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I've found a stunning progger...
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=6701 I'm surprised at his number of ratings. Terrific...he's listened to over 5000 progressive albums...more progressive than Sean Trane... Edited by DamoXt7942 - May 19 2009 at 07:26 |
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russellk
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I am becoming increasingly uncomfortable about the number of reviews of DREAM THEATER's latest album a FULL MONTH before it is officially released. Many of the reviewers admit they have obtained the music illegally.
How can we allow this? • It makes it appear as though PA supports illegal downloads • The quality of the reviews are generally poor, and don't help anyone genuinely interested in buying the album • The credibility of the site is affected. The answer is surely simple. We should let people make pre-release reviews based on legitimate promotional copies. These people tend to be Collaborators. So why not make the pre-release reviews available for collaborators only? |
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Ricochet
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98% of them are ratings, and since ratings without reviews don't tell me anything... |
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Dean
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Unless there is a software mechanism to prevent non-collabs from posting a review I think it will only encourage people to post. I'd say no reviews at all before the release date since prooving legitimate copies is difficult and time consuming. It is a dilema - record companies send out promo copies so that "professional" reviewers can publish reviews before the release date - this historically was aimed at print publications so that the magazine reviews hit the stands at the same time as the album hit the shops. |
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russellk
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^ I thought it might not be too difficult to write a routine limiting access to albums until their release date, but I've not done any programming for nearly two decades, so I'm just guessing.
I'd rather have no reviews at all than the current situation. Those with promo copies can wait a little, surely? |
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DamoXt7942
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But wait, even without reviews, posting over 5000 ratings should be so hard for us. |
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DamoXt7942
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Oh, please cool yourself down, inrainbows. I guess he should decide between "good or bad" clearly. |
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progrules
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I'm not sure if that would help. I've seen this way of acting before (just giving 1 and 5 star ratings) and I consider people like this big children who can't control themselves. A pain in the neck of our site, but what can you do ? I think we should consider to ban this way of acting by throwing them off the site. Don't forget they are ruining averages of hard working bands. We can live without this misbehaviour.
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Ricochet
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It should take me no more than three hours. Opening pages to different albums of different bands would be the nightmare, compared to just clicking a rate from 1 to 5. |
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harmonium.ro
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drain-o is a fabulous character, one of the Founding Fathers of PA. nobody knows him and he never wrote anything on the forum, still he has a great taste (and collection).
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Great taste: i doubt he heard all the albums he has rated.
Check something, the guy rates BANDS, not individual albums, take an example
FRANK ZAPPA Civilization Phaze III (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Cruising With Ruben & The Jets (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Cheap Thrills (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Francesco Zappa (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Meets The Mothers Of Prevention (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Mystery Disc (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Son Of Cheep Thrills (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Playground Psychotics (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Thing-Fish (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Them Or Us (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Man From Utopia (rating only) Does somebody believe all Zappa albums are exactly the same?
RICK WAKEMAN Beyond The Planets (rating only)
RICK WAKEMAN A World of Wisdom (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Burning (Film Soundtrack) (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Country Airs (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Light Up The Sky (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Lure of the Wild (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Wakeman with Wakeman Live (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Rick Wakeman In Concert KBFH (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN No Expense Spared (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Songs Of Middle Earth (rating only) MERCHANTS VICE Amber (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Preludes To A Century (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Chronicles of Man (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Christmas Variations (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Visions (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Tribute (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Master Series (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Stella Bianca alla corte de Re Ferdinando (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Unleashing the Tethered One - The 1974 North American Tour (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Piano Album - Live (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The New Gospels (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 8 - Stories (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 5 - The Mixture (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 1 - The Real Lizstomania (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 2 - The Oscar Concert (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 3 - The Missing Half (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN White Rock II (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Vignettes (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Tapestries (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Romance of the Victorian Age (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Wakeman & Cousins - Hummingbird (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Wizard And The Forest Of All Dreams (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Greatest Hits (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Heritage Suite (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN A Suite of Gods (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Zodiaque (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Time Machine (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Sea Airs (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Black Knights at the Court of Ferdinand IV (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Night Airs (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Phantom Power (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Aspirant Sunrise (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Aspirant Sunset (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Aspirant Sunshadows (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Softsword (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN 2000 A.D. into the Future (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Classical Connection 2 (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Country Airs - Piano Solos (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Gospels (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Rhapsodies (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN G'olé O.S.T. (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Crimes of Passion O.S.T. (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Silent Nights (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Cost of Living (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Classical Connection (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Return to the Centre of the Earth (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Cirque Surreal (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Themes (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN White Rock (rating only) Or the guy is the worst masochist in the world, or has selected the weakest Wakeman albums, but rated White Rock and Return to the Centre of the Earth exactly the same as all the New Age albums.
I don't buy this, but the guy is innocent until proved gyuilty.
Iván
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Dean
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^ You are being selective Iván:
The true picture looks more realistic:
FRANK ZAPPA 'Tis The Season To Be Jelly (rating only)
FRANK ZAPPA 200 Motels (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Absolutely Free (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Ahead Of Their Time (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Anyway The Wind Blows (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Apostrophe (') (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA As An Am (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Baby Snakes (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Baby Snakes (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Bongo Fury (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Broadway The Hard Way (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Buffalo (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Burnt Weeny Sandwich (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Cheap Thrills (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Chunga's Revenge (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Civilization Phaze III (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Cruising With Ruben & The Jets (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Does Humor Belong In Music? (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Everything Is Healing Nicely (EIHN) (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Fillmore East, June 1971 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Francesco Zappa (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Frank Zappa Plays The Music Of Frank Zappa: A Memorial Tribute (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Freak Out! (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Freaks & Motherfu*#@%! (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA FZ:OZ (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Guitar (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Hot Rats (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Imaginary Diseases (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Jazz From Hell (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Joe's Garage, Act I (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Joe's Garage, Acts I, II & III (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Joe's Garage, Acts II & III (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Joe's XMASage (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Joe's Corsage (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Joe's Domage (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Just Another Band From L.A. (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Läther (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA London Symphony Orchestra Vol. I (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA London Symphony Orchestra Vol. II (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Lumpy Gravy (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Make A Jazz Noise Here (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Meets The Mothers Of Prevention (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Mothermania: The Best Of The Mothers (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA One Size Fits All (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Orchestral Favorites (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Over-Nite Sensation (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Piquantique - Stockholm 1973 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Playground Psychotics (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA QuAUDIOPHILIAc (DVD-Audio) (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Return Of The Son Of Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Roxy & Elsewhere (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Saarbrucken 1978 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Sheik Yerbouti (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar (The Box Set) (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Shut Up 'N Play Yer Guitar Some More (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Sleep Dirt (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Son Of Cheep Thrills (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Strictly Commercial (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Studio Tan (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Ark (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Grand Wazoo (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Lost Episodes (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Man From Utopia (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Mystery Disc (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Perfect Stranger (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA The Yellow Shark (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Them Or Us (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Thing-Fish (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Tinsel Town Rebellion (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Trance-Fusion (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Uncle Meat (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Unmitigated Audacity (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Waka / Jawaka (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA We're Only In It For The Money (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Weasels Ripped My Flesh (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA You Are What You Is (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol. 1 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol. 2 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol. 3 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol. 4 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol. 5 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore, Vol. 6 (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Zappa In New York (rating only) FRANK ZAPPA Zoot Allures (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN 1984 (rating only)
RICK WAKEMAN 2000 A.D. into the Future (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN A Suite of Gods (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN A World of Wisdom (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN African Bach (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Aspirant Sunrise (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Aspirant Sunset (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Aspirant Sunshadows (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Beyond The Planets (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Black Knights at the Court of Ferdinand IV (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Can You Hear Me? (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Christmas Variations (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Chronicles of Man (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Cirque Surreal (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Cost of Living (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Country Airs (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Country Airs - Piano Solos (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Crimes of Passion O.S.T. (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Criminal Record (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Fields of Green (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN G'olé O.S.T. (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Greatest Hits (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN I'm So Straight I'm A Weirdo (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN In the Beginning (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Journey to the Centre of the Earth (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Light Up The Sky (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Lisztomania (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Live At The BBC (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Live at the Hammersmith (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Live on the Test (1976) (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Lure of the Wild (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Master Series (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Morning Has Broken (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Night Airs (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN No Earthly Connection (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN No Expense Spared (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Orisons (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Out of the Blue (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Out There (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Phantom Power (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Piano Vibrations (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Prayers (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Preludes To A Century (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Retro (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Return to the Centre of the Earth (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Revisited (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Rhapsodies (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Rick Wakeman At Lincoln Cathedral (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Rick Wakeman In Concert KBFH (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Rock n'roll Prophet (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Romance of the Victorian Age (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Sea Airs (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Silent Nights (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Softsword (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Songs Of Middle Earth (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Stella Bianca alla corte de Re Ferdinando (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Tales Of Future And Past (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Tapestries (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Art in Music Trilogy (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Burning (Film Soundtrack) (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Classic Tracks (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Classical Connection (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Classical Connection 2 (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Family Album (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Gospels (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Heritage Suite (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Legend - Live in Concert 2000 (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Natural World Trilogy (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The New Gospels (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Piano Album - Live (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Seven Wonders of the World (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Six Wives of Henry VIII (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Wizard And The Forest Of All Dreams (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN The Word and Music (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Themes (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Time Machine (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 1 - The Real Lizstomania (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 2 - The Oscar Concert (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 3 - The Missing Half (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 4 - Almost Classical (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 5 - The Mixture (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 6 - Medium Rare (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 7 - Journey to the Centre of the Earth + (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Treasure Chest Volume 8 - Stories (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Tribute (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Two Sides of Yes (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Two Sides of Yes - Volume 2 (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Unleashing the Tethered One - The 1974 North American Tour (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Vignettes (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Visions (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Wakeman & Cousins - Hummingbird (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Wakeman with Wakeman (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Wakeman with Wakeman Live (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN White Rock (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN White Rock II (rating only) RICK WAKEMAN Zodiaque (rating only) anyway, my favourite drain-o quote:
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Ricochet
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With integrity or not, drain-o can keep his ratings to his fanbase*, I'm not impressed.
Music is not a term paper, to get just grades and rates, and expressing your view over the quality of music can be perfectly done using adjectives. * Of course, I'm not suggesting any kind of wrong doing in this, I'm merely discussing. Edited by Ricochet - May 24 2009 at 16:51 |
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