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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 03:30
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 03:34
Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

I got a bit fat and doubled chin through a couple years of drinking hard and eating awfully (I call it my Elvis period).I've lost the obvious weight but am still beer bellied.As i'm not very fit would you suggest situps or a run of some sort (or both obviously) Because it's just beer belly which is the problem and I'm quite anti-gym.


Personally, I would recommend that if at all possible you get a bicycle and try to use it instead of your car whenever appropriate. It's not an option for some people, but in my case this gives me about 4 hours of exercise each week without having to sacrifice any other activities.

On top of that I'm using a stepper ... while listening to prog or watching prog live dvds. Running is a bit more effective (burns more calories) but can also damage your joints.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 03:42
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by mrcozdude mrcozdude wrote:

I got a bit fat and doubled chin through a couple years of drinking hard and eating awfully (I call it my Elvis period).I've lost the obvious weight but am still beer bellied.As i'm not very fit would you suggest situps or a run of some sort (or both obviously) Because it's just beer belly which is the problem and I'm quite anti-gym.


Personally, I would recommend that if at all possible you get a bicycle and try to use it instead of your car whenever appropriate. It's not an option for some people, but in my case this gives me about 4 hours of exercise each week without having to sacrifice any other activities.

On top of that I'm using a stepper ... while listening to prog or watching prog live dvds. Running is a bit more effective (burns more calories) but can also damage your joints.


Have you tried elliptical machines? While they're not as effective as running, they do provide a bit more motion than a stepper. I found them to be quite useful during my weight loss endeavors. I love how you never have to remove your feel from the machine; that prevents a bit of the damaging impact that I have come to associate with running.

Speaking of running, I usually set my my mp3 player on random when I'm at the gym. Once, I listened to all of  King Crimson's "Sailor's Tale." Boy, that was a weird experience... minutes of soothing ambiance followed by zonked out drumming and jagged guitar work... odd but fun.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 04:19
^ sorry, in fact I have an elliptical machine:

http://www.daum-electronic.de/en/modelle/cp-lycardio-t.html

I agree that they're much better than simple steppers. If you use the arms properly and set a high wattage, they're every bit as effective as running IMO ... without all the health hazard. Usually I settle for a low wattage though, as my only intention is to burn some calories (usually about 100 watts for 20-30 minutes).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 06:36
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

My wife & I just bought bikes whith which we have been riding to work rather than driving ...I haven't noticed any changes in weight yet (though others have commented on me looking thinner) but it certainly wears me out! I'm hoping that after a few months of biking to work I'll notice some results...
 
I have a serious problem losing weight. I have exercise & heat induced asthma, so I can't do anything too strenuous, but biking isn't bothering me at all. I eat 100% vegan & never take in more than 1000 calories a day, but my bmi has been at 36 for the past 15 years...I have only eaten a vegetarian diet for 7 of those years, but you'd think there would be some change Ermm


I honestly find that hard to believe.

http://health.discovery.com/tools/calculators/basal/basal.html

Even if you don't work out at all, your body needs around 2000 kcal a day. Are you *really* sure about that caloric intake?
 
positive. I never top 1500 for a day ...like I said, I'm vegan. It's hard to get more calories than that without meat or dairy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 07:08
If I may chime in with some advice, this is what I found works very well to keep me healthy and at a reasonable weight:

1) drink water - lots of it! Sodas don't quench your thirst, and have loads of empty calories. At least beer and wine are natural products;

2) don't ever think about eliminating carbs - they are the main source of fuel your body needs. However, think about replacing part of your carb intake with whole grains and such. High-protein diets can put a lot of stress on your liver and kidneys;

3) use fat and sugar sparingly when you cook. I always cut down the amount of both fat and sugar in the recipes I make, and no one has ever complained. And learn to use plenty of herbs and spices!

4) WALK! That's the best esercise you can get - it's free, you can do it just about everywhere and in every situation. You'll wonder at what a regular 30-minute walk a day will do to your metabolism.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 07:37
^ thanks ... I agree with all 4 tips! Usually I don't drink pure water, but no sodas either (apart from the zero cal versions). I walk and cycle every day.  Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 07:55
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

I've been slightly overweight most of my life - nothing serious as such, I'm around 175 cm and ~ 86kg. My problem is mainly the fact that I don't eat the way I should. I can go all day without eating anything (I'm often so preoccupied by other things that I actually forget to eat!), but whenever I do eat something, I eat quickly and too much.

On top of that, I tend to drink too much coca-cola and the like, which is not doing me any favors, I'm sure. I've been thinking about cutting the sodas out, but it's not going to be easy as I have this bizarre addiction to carbonic acid. Perhaps I ought to turn to carbonated water. Anyway, good luck to all of you trying to lose weight, I hope we all succeed.


There's also diet coke ... I never drink soda with real sugar in it. You could argue that it didn't help me much (like I said above, I'm really overweight), but on the other hand I don't want to know how much I weighed if I also had those calories on top of my ordinary intake.Wink


Believe it or not, diet sodas are actually worse for the casual soda drinker.  The aspartame and other ingredients make one hungrier, and they wind up replacing those calories cut by drinking diet relatively quickly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 16 2009 at 08:05
I'd also like to add that all the chemicals contained in 'diet' sodas are not precisely good for you, and are best avoided. I harbour a passionate hatred of sweeteners, and don't understand those people who put them in tea or coffee (I only take milk in coffee, and drink tea plain - they taste so much better that way), let alone those who use them for baking. Unless one is diabetic and has to avoid sugar, there is no need to do anything of the sort.... Using smaller quantities is the key.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 02:18
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ sorry, in fact I have an elliptical machine:

http://www.daum-electronic.de/en/modelle/cp-lycardio-t.html

I agree that they're much better than simple steppers. If you use the arms properly and set a high wattage, they're every bit as effective as running IMO ... without all the health hazard. Usually I settle for a low wattage though, as my only intention is to burn some calories (usually about 100 watts for 20-30 minutes).


Great, aren't they? I just did 1,000 calories on one of those things (granted, it was probably less than that since their estimates are usually zonky). I hadn't done that in months and man, do I feel revitalized! It's nice to kick it up a few notches every now and then.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 02:49
@Epignosis and Raff: I know that those theories exist about sweeteners, but personally I can't confirm them (I tried switching to water for an extended period but didn't feel any change in hunger). But thanks for the warning!Smile

@WalterDigsTunes: Yes, I love it! I'm not using it as often as I should, but everytime I do it's really nice, especially compared to real running. Additionally especially at this time of the year I'm having problems when doing sports outside because of my allergy (hay fever) and my rather white skin (danger of sun burn).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 07:09
Jogging is the best, and thats what i do i love it, i allso always hade problems with my Weight and jogging is the best way of losing it. But then again if your very big it might hurt your body so you shuld start with realy long walks then try jogging. Losing weight is not easy for everybody some have it easier then others, and it takes long time and hard work but its fun when you start see the results. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 07:31
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I'd also like to add that all the chemicals contained in 'diet' sodas are not precisely good for you, and are best avoided. I harbour a passionate hatred of sweeteners, and don't understand those people who put them in tea or coffee (I only take milk in coffee, and drink tea plain - they taste so much better that way), let alone those who use them for baking. Unless one is diabetic and has to avoid sugar, there is no need to do anything of the sort.... Using smaller quantities is the key.


By the way, anyone familiar with stevia?  And isn't sugar technically a sweetener anyway? LOL
Aspartame sucks big donkey balls as far as I am concerned.  Sucralose isn't too bad.  Saccarine is too saccarine.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 07:36
I've been using Splenda as a sweetener (primarily in my oatmeal) and I like it. I stay away from any refined sugar and have switched to either honey or agave nectar. Much better for you than sugar.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 07:49
I love honey, but I have yet to try agave nectar (I will very soon though). Italian honey is often said to be the best in the world, and from my experience it may very well be. I've heard about stevia, of course, but what I've heard was not particularly positive... It seems it's way too sweet, which is a big no-no for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 08:15
I have to admit I am dubious of the health benfits of bee spit, but then I don't like it very much.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 08:52
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

I love honey, but I have yet to try agave nectar (I will very soon though). Italian honey is often said to be the best in the world, and from my experience it may very well be. I've heard about stevia, of course, but what I've heard was not particularly positive... It seems it's way too sweet, which is a big no-no for me.

Stevia is used in really small quantities compared to the volume of sugar for any given level of sweetness.  I don't know about the new commercially available varieties around here.  It may be mixed with stuff to dilute it.  The Center For Science In The Public Interest has come out skeptical against it, but I like it.  It does make for a bit of a bitter taste in lemonade...




Edited by Slartibartfast - May 17 2009 at 08:53
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 09:49
Well, I'm just back from my parents ... a nice cycling tour, and my Polar heart rate monitor says:

Duration: 1:06h
Energy: ca. 850 kcals
Average pulse: 138

BTW: I took a nice picture on the way, you can see it in my new blog: http://mikeenregalia.blogspot.com

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 17 2009 at 09:56
add an e in the middle and it works fine

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