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Poll Question: What's your pick of these 2 gangster classics?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2009 at 18:29
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I never really went for that film. Pacino just overacts to no end and the whole thing is just plain unsettling. IMO, Carlito's Way was a much better DePalma/Pacino collaboration. DePalma and Pacino actually showed some restraint on that one.
Carlito´s way? So so movie. Yes, it has all the elements of a great gangster movie, but I´ve seen them all before... kind of what happend to me with the Departured. Great movie, but it´s not new to me, even if it´s done in a very fresh, modern way...

I agree that the Departed doesn't measure up to Scorsese's previous masterpieces like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and Goodfellas, but he was well overdue for an Oscar. I about threw a fit when he lost to Costner for Dances With Wolves. Good film, but not nearly as bold as Goodfellas was. That was the second time he lost to an actor making his directorial debut. The other was when he lost on Raging Bull to Redford for Ordinary People.


And he never descerved them more than those two times! Ok, Ordinary people is a nice movie, a very good one I might even say... but giving the Oscar to Dances with wolves just shows how popularity wins quality. Damn, even The Departured is another good example. It´s not so much that the Departed won the Oscar, it´s that FINALLY a Scorsese movie won it... and don´t get me started with Slumdog millionaire...Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2009 at 20:20
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Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

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I never really went for that film. Pacino just overacts to no end and the whole thing is just plain unsettling. IMO, Carlito's Way was a much better DePalma/Pacino collaboration. DePalma and Pacino actually showed some restraint on that one.
Carlito´s way? So so movie. Yes, it has all the elements of a great gangster movie, but I´ve seen them all before... kind of what happend to me with the Departured. Great movie, but it´s not new to me, even if it´s done in a very fresh, modern way...

I agree that the Departed doesn't measure up to Scorsese's previous masterpieces like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and Goodfellas, but he was well overdue for an Oscar. I about threw a fit when he lost to Costner for Dances With Wolves. Good film, but not nearly as bold as Goodfellas was. That was the second time he lost to an actor making his directorial debut. The other was when he lost on Raging Bull to Redford for Ordinary People.
And he never descerved them more than those two times! Ok, Ordinary people is a nice movie, a very good one I might even say... but giving the Oscar to Dances with wolves just shows how popularity wins quality. Damn, even The Departured is another good example. It´s not so much that the Departed won the Oscar, it´s that FINALLY a Scorsese movie won it... and don´t get me started with Slumdog millionaire...Dead

All in all, I thought 2008 was a crappy year for films. I was a bit ticked seeing Clint's Gran Torino ignored.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 25 2009 at 20:53
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So while we're on mobster films, anyone want to opine on the Sopranos?


sure, from the episodes I've seen it sucks big monkey balls.. it's dull, very dark without any of the humor or uplift in a film like Goodfellas, and am I crazy or does nothing actually happen ?



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2009 at 15:20
Ouch, I love both of these films equally. If I HAD to choose just one though, I guess I'd go with Goodfellas. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2009 at 16:08
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So while we're on mobster films, anyone want to opine on the Sopranos?


sure, from the episodes I've seen it sucks big monkey balls.. it's dull, very dark without any of the humor or uplift in a film like Goodfellas, and am I crazy or does nothing actually happen ?




I understand your sentiment, but during the first seasons I thought it was often hilarious actually! A fearsome, big mob boss crying over the ducks at his pool! It was often funny in a quiet way, so to speak. Admittedly, it got pretty depressing towards the end and lost most of its very subtle humor. Still, it's easily one of my favorite tv shows.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 28 2009 at 22:26
Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

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I never really went for that film. Pacino just overacts to no end and the whole thing is just plain unsettling. IMO, Carlito's Way was a much better DePalma/Pacino collaboration. DePalma and Pacino actually showed some restraint on that one.
Carlito´s way? So so movie. Yes, it has all the elements of a great gangster movie, but I´ve seen them all before... kind of what happend to me with the Departured. Great movie, but it´s not new to me, even if it´s done in a very fresh, modern way...

I agree that the Departed doesn't measure up to Scorsese's previous masterpieces like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and Goodfellas, but he was well overdue for an Oscar. I about threw a fit when he lost to Costner for Dances With Wolves. Good film, but not nearly as bold as Goodfellas was. That was the second time he lost to an actor making his directorial debut. The other was when he lost on Raging Bull to Redford for Ordinary People.
And he never descerved them more than those two times! Ok, Ordinary people is a nice movie, a very good one I might even say... but giving the Oscar to Dances with wolves just shows how popularity wins quality. Damn, even The Departured is another good example. It´s not so much that the Departed won the Oscar, it´s that FINALLY a Scorsese movie won it... and don´t get me started with Slumdog millionaire...Dead

All in all, I thought 2008 was a crappy year for films. I was a bit ticked seeing Clint's Gran Torino ignored.


Personally I think it was a ... I wouldn´t say good year cause not that many good movies came out, but the good ones, although few, were really good! Benjamin Button, Milk, Wall-e (probably the ebst movie of the year), The Dark Knight, The Wrestler... it was ok... just ok
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 08:33
Goodfellas.
 
I just love everything about the film. The cast, the actual filming and the storytelling style.  It's one of my favourite films of all.  I prefer the combo of De Niro/Pesci/Liotta than Godfather to be honest.
 
Changing tack a little, what about Heat?  De Niro and Pacino are superb with Kilmer and Voight giving good support too.  The street shootout after the bank raid was particularly amazing on the big screen. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 06 2009 at 08:54
Originally posted by Roj M30 Roj M30 wrote:

Goodfellas.
 

I just love everything about the film. The cast, the actual filming and the storytelling style.  It's one of my favourite films of all.  I prefer the combo of De Niro/Pesci/Liotta than Godfather to be honest.

 

Changing tack a little, what about Heat?  De Niro and Pacino are superb with Kilmer and Voight giving good support too.  The street shootout after the bank raid was particularly amazing on the big screen. 

Heat was great except that it dragged too long. If they had cut it by about 20-30 min. and picked up the pace a little, it would've been a perfect heist film. And too bad Robert and Al only shared the screen for about 3-4 minutes.
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