Political discussion thread

The above post brings to mind the discussions on whether mind games and waterboarding are actually torture. To me, hell yes they are! I'd rather someone sit there and cut me repeatedly than f**k with my mind. People who say it's not torture must really not value their minds at all. Hell, long term sleep deprivation does do actual organic damage anyway, to the brain and other organs. Now whether or not the use of these methods is justified is another discussion entirely (I still think probably not, torture is a lazy man's interrogation),  but don't give me this bullsh*t about it not being torture. /rant

Edited by Deathrabbit - April 23 2009 at 07:41

Well, it's starting to come out that all the useful information that was produced during the Bush administration was by standard interrogation rather than "enhanced" interrogation, i.e. torture.  Torture was likely being used to get false confessions to say Al-Quaida and Iraq were in cahoots. 

By the way, not holding my breath for Hannity to actually submit himself for true waterboarding for charity.  And I absolutely know he won't be willing to go through it 138 time or so in one month or so.  What a dickweed!


Edited by Slartibartfast - April 29 2009 at 07:09

Deathrabbit wrote: Well use of torture is notorious for producing information of dubious quality. In fact fear of torture is actually usually more effective than the act itself. The best way to break someone, however, is to get inside their head and understand them.

You've read 1984, I guess.... This is exactly what happens at the end, when the protagonist's will is broken through fear of torture.

Well, I wish I was a 12-year-old... Anyway, it is a great (though very, very dark and pessimistic) piece of literature, political content notwithstanding. 

Slartibartfast wrote:   By the way, not holding my breath for Hannity to actually submit himself for true waterboarding for charity.  And I absolutely know he won't be willing to go through it 138 time or so in one month or so.  What a dickweed!

I would pay to see Wahhnity,Beck and Limbaugh go through it. I think that only Coulter could handle it seeing she's the biggest man of the bunch.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/69175

If they continue to fall off the right side of the map in the face of what their constituents want, then yes. They should have taken the last couple elections as a referendum on how they are doing business, there response is to go even farther right?! I just don't understand their strategy. Meanwhile, the dems are coming farther right with Obama than they have been for about the past 15 years. It seems like they'd be willing to meet in the middle but all the repubs want to do is filibuster. Not that I'm really on the dems side tho. Obama's been ok, but this congress is one of the worst I can remember. Every time I see that Pelosi bitch with that fake arrogant-ass smile plastered on her face I get a strong desire to hurt things.


Edited by Deathrabbit - April 29 2009 at 08:18

I still like Bernie Sanders and Keith Olbermann.
Georgia politicians mostly piss me off.  The last one I really liked was Cynthia McKinney.  Primarily because of who she pissed off.


Edited by Slartibartfast - April 30 2009 at 05:02

birdwithteeth11 wrote: crimhead wrote: Deathrabbit wrote:   Every time I see that Pelosi bitch with that fake arrogant-ass smile plastered on her face I get a strong desire to hurt things. It's not just her but every politician,every talking head,ever news commentator that get's my goat. Vote the first out of office and to hell with the other two.

Well, you're a bird with teeth, couldn't you just fly up and bite all their heads off?


Edited by Slartibartfast - April 30 2009 at 05:03

Slartibartfast wrote: The last one I really liked was Cynthia McKinney.  Primarily because of who she pissed off.

You do realize she is insane, right? I don't know if you read it at the time, but this was my favorite article of the whole election cycle. Apparently "they" were watching here, but it's hard to tell who, since not even her staff knew where she was.

Edited by Henry Plainview - April 30 2009 at 01:04