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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

How this thread ended up with 75 replies in less than one day is beyond me...ConfusedShocked


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^or maybe just the post counterWink
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Has anyone mentioned how easy it is to bump a group into the most popular groups listing (top 40). Six Organs of Admittance has 8 albums, and one live. No reviews or ratings. Yet, it has been in that list for a least a few weeks. Dunphy was there for a bit too.
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Seems the alteration to the algorithm to allow less popular but highly rated albums into the top 100 has side-effects ...
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Points: 782 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 15:34
And here's another one ... could be the same person ...

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23758
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 16:41

I cannot prove it by IP address, but I suspect all these are the same person as well
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Points: 32524 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 22 2009 at 17:04
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I cannot prove it by IP address, but I suspect all these are the same person as well



I don't know Dean- I looked at all their ratings, and I can't see a huge common bond.  But you may be right.
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^ Okay 3rd from top is probably not - but the rest... too close - unless all Columbians love Floyd & hate Genesis and/or Yes.
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Looking at those review listings, I think you have a strong case for users 23470 and 23758, they are probably the same culprit as the one I started the thread about. The rest is not as clear-cut, since they also rate some 2,3 and 4*.
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Three of them share two common IP addresses - reasonings behind my suspicion of others is slightly deeper in that they all share the same ISP and their activities never interleave but reveal a distinct chronological pattern,.. as I say - it is a suspicion and I cannot prove it emphatically.
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Well, you know better than me...maybe it's an organized action of the Columbian PF fanclub? Confused
It is surely curious how well loved PF is by all these users...And especially curious how Phaedra of Tangerine Dream turns in 5* many times...
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Points: 782 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2009 at 14:32
Still going

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23877
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23859

Join, post their one-star and five-star reviews, slope off and are never seen again.
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there's clearly a case of an angry pink floyd fan.

IMO there should be two different rankings: one that only counts ratings with reviews and second that counts both ratings with and with out reviews. that would minimize all the mess that such a manipulations might cause.
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Points: 2064 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 14:19

Some other attempts to manipulate the top 100 by fanboys?

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23964

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23945

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23928

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23162

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23015

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23000

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=22956

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=22709

 

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=22649

 
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Points: 16913 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 14:33
Excellant work and it reiterates the need for "weighted" ratings based on status with the site and whether "rating only" or review included. 
I hope these accounts, if deemed manipulation by Admin, will be swiftly deleted.  I can't believe some people have nothing better to do with their lives than worry about the placement of albums in a list. 


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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 15:25

How many fans does Pink Floyd have in Columbia?

 
 
(the country not the record label)
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Points: 5195 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 15:48
Of course there's a definitive pattern here. The perfect solution would be if the admins inspected the accounts on a regular basis and marked spam accordingly. Of course you can simply delete them, but then the spammers would simply try again. Rather than that ... let them submit their ratings and think that they have an effect.

 
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Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 16:48
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

How many fans does Pink Floyd have in Columbia?

 
 
(the country not the record label)
 
What country is Columbia?? Confused
 
 
(because Colombia is obviously not what we're talking about....) 
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Points: 774 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 16:58
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

How many fans does Pink Floyd have in Columbia?

 
 
(the country not the record label)
 
What country is Columbia?? Confused
 
 
(because Colombia is obviously not what we're talking about....) 
 
If you don't joke, it's a South-American country, which has borders with Panama, Ecuador, Venezuela and Brazil (I hope I'm fully right).
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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 05 2009 at 17:04

Columbia

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not to be confused with Colombia, the country in South America.
 

Columbia (name) is a poetic name for America (in the sense of "European colonies in the New World") and the feminine personification of the United States of America; it has inspired the names of many persons, places, objects, institutions, and companies.

also see: Colony of British Columbia

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