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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46838 |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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^or maybe just the post counter
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debrewguy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3596 |
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Has anyone mentioned how easy it is to bump a group into the most popular groups listing (top 40). Six Organs of Admittance has 8 albums, and one live. No reviews or ratings. Yet, it has been in that list for a least a few weeks. Dunphy was there for a bit too.
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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russellk ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 28 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 782 |
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Seems the alteration to the algorithm to allow less popular but highly rated albums into the top 100 has side-effects ...
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russellk ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 28 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 782 |
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And here's another one ... could be the same person ...
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23758 |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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I cannot prove it by IP address, but I suspect all these are the same person as well http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=21123
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=13997
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18451
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=23470
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32553 |
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I don't know Dean- I looked at all their ratings, and I can't see a huge common bond. But you may be right. |
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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^ Okay 3rd from top is probably not - but the rest... too close - unless all Columbians love Floyd & hate Genesis and/or Yes.
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Soul Dreamer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 17 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 997 |
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Looking at those review listings, I think you have a strong case for users 23470 and 23758, they are probably the same culprit as the one I started the thread about. The rest is not as clear-cut, since they also rate some 2,3 and 4*.
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To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica)
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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Three of them share two common IP addresses - reasonings behind my suspicion of others is slightly deeper in that they all share the same ISP and their activities never interleave but reveal a distinct chronological pattern,.. as I say - it is a suspicion and I cannot prove it emphatically.
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Soul Dreamer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 17 2005 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 997 |
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Well, you know better than me...maybe it's an organized action of the Columbian PF fanclub?
![]() It is surely curious how well loved PF is by all these users...And especially curious how Phaedra of Tangerine Dream turns in 5* many times... |
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To be the one who seeks so I may find .. (Metallica)
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russellk ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 28 2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 782 |
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Still going
http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23877 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23859 Join, post their one-star and five-star reviews, slope off and are never seen again. |
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brainiak ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: June 28 2008 Location: silesia Status: Offline Points: 1 |
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there's clearly a case of an angry pink floyd fan. IMO there should be two different rankings: one that only counts ratings with reviews and second that counts both ratings with and with out reviews. that would minimize all the mess that such a manipulations might cause. |
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andrea ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 20 2005 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 2072 |
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Some other attempts to manipulate the top 100 by fanboys? http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23964 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23945 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23928 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23162 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23015 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=23000 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=22956 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=22709 http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=22649 |
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Finnforest ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: February 03 2007 Location: The Heartland Status: Offline Points: 17319 |
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Excellant work and it reiterates the need for "weighted" ratings based on status with the site and whether "rating only" or review included.
I hope these accounts, if deemed manipulation by Admin, will be swiftly deleted. I can't believe some people have nothing better to do with their lives than worry about the placement of albums in a list. Edited by Finnforest - May 05 2009 at 14:35 |
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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How many fans does Pink Floyd have in Columbia? (the country not the record label)
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Mr ProgFreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 08 2008 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 5195 |
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Of course there's a definitive pattern here. The perfect solution would be if the admins inspected the accounts on a regular basis and marked spam accordingly. Of course you can simply delete them, but then the spammers would simply try again. Rather than that ... let them submit their ratings and think that they have an effect.
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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What country is Columbia??
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Diaby ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 15 2007 Location: Hungary Status: Offline Points: 774 |
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If you don't joke, it's a South-American country, which has borders with Panama, Ecuador, Venezuela and Brazil (I hope I'm fully right).
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yeah
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Dean ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
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ColumbiaFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaColumbia (name) is a poetic name for America (in the sense of "European colonies in the New World") and the feminine personification of the United States of America; it has inspired the names of many persons, places, objects, institutions, and companies. also see: Colony of British Columbia ![]() |
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