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I love Hot Rats and Apostrophe, but find the rest a bit variable. I'm currently listening to an album called 'Man from Utopia' which is stretching my usually elastic wierdness threshold a bit too far. Has anyone heard this one and if so does it grow on you?
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Originally posted by Dr Clovenhoof Dr Clovenhoof wrote:

I love Hot Rats and Apostrophe, but find the rest a bit variable. I'm currently listening to an album called 'Man from Utopia' which is stretching my usually elastic wierdness threshold a bit too far. Has anyone heard this one and if so does it grow on you?
 
That's the one with The Dangerous Kitchen? Doubling the vocal parts on guitar is very clever but nearly as annoying as doing it on marimba (see previous posts). Wink
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Originally posted by Dr Clovenhoof Dr Clovenhoof wrote:

I love Hot Rats and Apostrophe, but find the rest a bit variable. I'm currently listening to an album called 'Man from Utopia' which is stretching my usually elastic wierdness threshold a bit too far. Has anyone heard this one and if so does it grow on you?
 
Call me crazy, but I think it's underrated as hell.  "Cocaine Decisions" is one of my favorite songs of his.
 
 
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Points: 21342 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 13 2009 at 20:04
Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Originally posted by Dr Clovenhoof Dr Clovenhoof wrote:

I love Hot Rats and Apostrophe, but find the rest a bit variable. I'm currently listening to an album called 'Man from Utopia' which is stretching my usually elastic wierdness threshold a bit too far. Has anyone heard this one and if so does it grow on you?
 
Call me crazy, but I think it's underrated as hell.  "Cocaine Decisions" is one of my favorite songs of his.
 
 

That's just about the only really good song on the album, though... The Jazz Discharge Party Hats, though... not very pretty.Ouch
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The sprechstimme (yep that's the word) on Man From Utopia tests the patience of even the most ardent Zappa fan, or at least this one.
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I quite like Zappa...

Sometime in the next two weeks, Zappa Plays Zappa (Dweebil Zappa, Frank's Son) Is playing at the Blues Festival.

That in Sydney AUS, I might go.

But yeah Zappa is quite good.
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In the past two days, I've played Hot Rats twice, Waka/Jaka three times and I'm currently playing the Lather box.

I think that says a bit about how I feel about Uncle Frank.
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Zappa himself refered to 'Sprechstimme' as 'Meltdown', a very apt discrition, I find.
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

The sprechstimme (yep that's the word) on Man From Utopia tests the patience of even the most ardent Zappa fan, or at least this one.
 
LOL yep a lot of people gets completely turned off by the meltdown songs but there are only two of them on The Man from Utopia. I enjoy them now but didn´t when I was first introduced to them. There are a lot of other great songs on The Man from Utopia though. I find it a very recommendable purchase. Maybe not the first album you should buy if you´re new to Zappa but not one you shold miss if you´re a fan either.
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I guess I'm in a minority of dedicated Zappa fans who actually don't like this album all that much (aside from Cocaine Decisions and SEX)... whodathunkit?
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It's one of the ones I've as yet avoided. I don't really like much of his 80s stuff.
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Originally posted by UMUR UMUR wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

The sprechstimme (yep that's the word) on Man From Utopia tests the patience of even the most ardent Zappa fan, or at least this one.
 
LOL yep a lot of people gets completely turned off by the meltdown songs but there are only two of them on The Man from Utopia. I enjoy them now but didn´t when I was first introduced to them. There are a lot of other great songs on The Man from Utopia though. I find it a very recommendable purchase. Maybe not the first album you should buy if you´re new to Zappa but not one you shold miss if you´re a fan either.


the meltdown stuff is what got me into FZ, i found it hilarious! .....and peaches en regalia Big smile
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What Zappa I've heard I love, though my first experience probably wasn't the best starting point for me and it took me a few spins to like it (Sheik Yerbouti).  Then I got Peaches en Regalia and Waka/Jawaka and fell in love.
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i would recommend Peaches En Regalia! real nice album, great sound and lyrics! i am siure you will love it!
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are you guys talking about the out-of-print single for Peaches en Regalia?

i doubt it, i think you guys mean Hot Rats (1969)
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Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by zappaholic zappaholic wrote:

Originally posted by Dr Clovenhoof Dr Clovenhoof wrote:

I love Hot Rats and Apostrophe, but find the rest a bit variable. I'm currently listening to an album called 'Man from Utopia' which is stretching my usually elastic wierdness threshold a bit too far. Has anyone heard this one and if so does it grow on you?
 
Call me crazy, but I think it's underrated as hell.  "Cocaine Decisions" is one of my favorite songs of his.
 
 

That's just about the only really good song on the album, though... The Jazz Discharge Party Hats, though... not very pretty.Ouch
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Well I played it again and it hasn't got much easier to listen to, though I agree Cocaine Decisions probably makes the album worthwhile. Things like The Jazz Discharge Party Hats probably have to be listened to int he right context, if you know what I mean, otherwise they are just annoying!
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I can't get into his stuff
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^then you can't get into da' prog! Tongue Wink
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Originally posted by Hootywho Hootywho wrote:

As stated, your opinions on Frank Zappa.

Myself, I find his music rather hard to listen to with the exception of Hot Rats and some of his other jazzy stuff, generally, even then, I find myself changing the song when he comes up on random. I don't dislike it nor do I find it pleasing to the ear.


How 'bout you?

I try, boy do I try, to appreciate his stuff. I just can not get into it.  Cry  Joe's Garage almost did it for me but I can't get beyong his vocals or silliness. Granted I haven't heard everything and didn't realize he had jazz stuff. Maybe that will be the connection.
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