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JLocke ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: November 18 2007 Status: Offline Points: 4900 |
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I used to be very indifferent about the man's music, but these days, I've warmed up to it quite a bit. I would recommend One Size Fits All for your starting point. Songs like "Po-Jama People" and "Andy" are absolute masterpieces as far as I am concerned.
Like with most Prog, Zappa is not going to make sense to you upon first listen, but keep trying him out from time to time (when he comes up during shuffle mode next time, force yourself to listen without skipping), and eventually you will understand it. After that happens, you can then decide for yourself whether or not he is your taste, but don't write him off just because his music confuses you at first.
Most Prog has confused me at first, and had I not dug deeper and discovered what makes it so special, I would have missed out on alot of great music (Tool, Pain of Salvation, Bela Fleck and the Flecktones, Mogwai, Sigur Ros, The Mars Volta, Frank Zappa, etc.)
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el böthy ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 27 2005 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 6336 |
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He was the best. Period
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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Seconded. He truly took music to another level, and not only in just a few albums, but in almost any of them! Sadly his guitar playing is very overlooked. As a composer and song-writer he's the best, no doubt. |
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jammun ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 14 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3449 |
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Frank, I am a big fan of 90% of his music. The other 10% will eventually come to me. Even at his worst (the dreaded Flo & Eddie years), there is a lot of great music to be found.
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Cygnus X-2 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 24 2004 Location: Bucketheadland Status: Offline Points: 21342 |
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It's nice to see you have a change of heart. My work may have been slow, but it payed off. ![]() |
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zappaholic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 24 2006 Location: flyover country Status: Offline Points: 2822 |
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Like a lot of people, it was the funny stuff that got me interested at first. But it was the quality of the compositions and the musicianship that kept me coming back.
Zappa is my favorite musical artist, PERIOD. I have most of the catalog. Never got to see him live - he retired from touring before I started going to shows - but I did see Dweezil on the ZPZ tour a couple years ago, and he did his old man proud.
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"Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." -- H.L. Mencken
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darkshade ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: November 19 2005 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 10964 |
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i missed a couple more jazzier albums! Waka/Jawaka The Grand Wazoo Chunga's Revenge Imaginary Diseases Wazoo |
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Good musicians, good albums
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WalterDigsTunes ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 11 2007 Location: SanDiegoTijuana Status: Offline Points: 4373 |
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Die-hards ought to know that the songs featured on Lather are, by and large, different than the ones on the late 70s LPs. http://lukpac.org/~handmade/patio/vinylvscds/lather.html shows how some songs are longer, shorter, different mixes or different takes. Obsessives will likely revel in spotting the differences between the songs. |
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Cygnus X-2 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 24 2004 Location: Bucketheadland Status: Offline Points: 21342 |
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Sleep Dirt and the songs from it on Lather are very different, the main difference being the vocals on the album being specifically for Sleep Dirt (Time is Money, Spider of Destiny, etc).
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Matthew T ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 01 2007 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 5291 |
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himtroy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 20 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1601 |
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I love Zappa. I think between the mans more rock outfitted bands, classical, and jazz he is a musical genious. I got into him through We're Only In It for the Money
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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I barely listen to Zappa and to be honest, I think a fair bit of his music is pretty terrible, but for the stuff that I do like, I absolutely love it.
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manofmystery ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 26 2008 Location: PA, USA Status: Offline Points: 4335 |
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my opinion of Frank, simply put: ![]() |
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![]() Time always wins. |
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Petrovsk Mizinski ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: December 24 2007 Location: Ukraine Status: Offline Points: 25210 |
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So you'd hug him? Now tell us how you feel about his music:P |
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tszirmay ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: August 17 2006 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 6673 |
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There is only one Zappa, his name is Frank, later Uncle Frank. While not a huge fan, my first hometown concert was Zappa and it was a guitar fest, no vocals, simply breathtaking! One of my first records was Chunga's Revenge , a delirious , at times puzzling set of music and tunes, namely Peaches in Regalia as well as Transylvanian Boogie. The title cut is no shab job either! The Mothers with Mud Shark and the ridiculously tight (no pun intended) Dinah-Moe Hum , made quite an impression back in the days when sex , was , well , sort of a new still taboo subject! Roxy and Elsewhere (with a title like that how can I say no -see avatar) only confirms the genius . Huge influence on a multitude of musicians worldwide, his irascible behaviour and sharp intellect is sorely missed in a world so full of apathy . In everything, just look at the news!
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Owlchops ![]() Forum Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: March 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 24 |
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He was one of the originators of the prog genre, without actually being formally credited/associated with it.
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song_of_copper ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 20 2008 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1065 |
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Ah... Frank Zappa. I pretty much became an instant fan the first time I heard his music.
![]() Recently I've been somewhat less interested in his music than I used to be. I think that's because my needs have changed: subject-matter wise, I want to hear hopeful music now, not so much an incisive summary of all that's stupid and frustrating in the world. But musically, it's still amazing. Listen to other people's music, then come back to Zappa, and you suddenly realise how densely-packed it is with ideas, how streamlined it sounds, how invincibly disciplined! In common with many super-intelligent types, Zappa seems to have combined the attention span of a gnat (sometimes he swaps genres more than once during one song, and a lot of people complain that his albums don't 'flow' or have a 'narrative' to them) with the most incredibly obsessive, zealous devotion and application to his craft (composing, playing, recording). This mixture of fickleness and monomania gives his music a very distinctive feel. It's not for everyone. And he puts many people off with his more off-colour moments in the humour department. But at its best, his music is utterly sublime - and it doesn't get old. Albums I've listened to hundreds of times still feel fresh to me after a few years of listening. A notable exception for me is 'Hot Rats'. Everyone always recommends 'Hot Rats' but I tend to think of that as a misleading starting point. It's... Zappa for people who don't like Zappa. ![]() ![]() |
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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![]() Except for the part that Roxy & Elsewhere is accesible ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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song_of_copper ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 20 2008 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 1065 |
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Aw, thanks! ![]() ...well, yeah, you're right... not so much the 'Be-Bop Tango'... although of course it does have a useful beginner's lesson in rhythm! ("...that's a pedestrian beat...") ![]() 'Cheepnis' and 'Village of the Sun' ought to appeal pretty widely though! |
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