Overrated Bands (Opininonated!)

Well, make it four.  Another band that isn't terrible, but they aren't the second coming either.

Nov wrote: Captain Capricorn wrote: The Flower Kings   I know I'm opening myself up to criticism here but I just think you are wrong to suggest that The Flower Kings are over-rated.   I would respectfully suggest that you sit and watch the "Meet The Flower Kings" DVD. This (at the very least)displays superb musicians playing brilliantly composed music.   As someone who grew up with Yes, Genesis, Camel and all the other 70s classic bands, The Flower Kings are, in my opinion the absolute real deal and the best band to emerge in the past 20 years in this genre.   Someone else put it better than I ever could in his review of the DVD I mentioned earlier:   The Flower Kings on this double-disc, live CD, featuring six compositions ("Garden of Dreams" is in two parts, making for a total of seven tracks) offer one of the brightest views yet of a band whose obsession with musical exploration and complex harmonic issues never, ever gets in the way of an honest expression of "song," and the human emotions and narratives within it.   Led by guitarist and vocalist Roine Stolt, this Swedish septet offers a live outing every bit as adventurous as their studio offerings. Stolt's debt to Yes' Jon Anderson and Steve Hackett is still everywhere evident, but his lyrics are not consciously obtuse, and are drenched in life-affirming scenarios.   Musically, the band's reliance on melody and harmony to carry forth their edgier musical explorations is a real blessing; they welcome the listener inside their sound world and make them a part of their sprawling musical narratives. One listen to the opener, "The Truth Will Set You Free," (clocking in at over 31 minutes), or Disc Two's 26-minute-plus closer, "Stardust We Are," proves that good music has no expiration date, and that inspiration is a deep well that knows no prejudices. This is the real stuff: brave, elegant, ambitious and yes, soulful. Amen

HughesJB4 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: another vote for Camel uh, I guess I'll say Kayo Dot as well but I'm getting my flame-retardant suit ready You sir, are going to need not only the flame retardant suit, but a bullet proof vest for the Kayo Dot comment

Yeah, that's why I'm not a fan of the term "overrated" as such, just I can't see what the fuss is all about.  But that's my loss.

first of all I go with Raff that "overrated" usually means "gets lots of acclaim, but I just don't like it". that being said: I never understood all the fuss about Rush. certainly good musicians, though not as good as their fan club tries to make them (this especially refers to the "Peartians" on this forum), but their compositions are a bit dull, in my opinion. not my cup of tea

Captain Capricorn wrote: Marillion & The Flower Kings

Sounds like an early 60's band...

Sgt. Peppers Lonely Heart's Club Band

with

Marillion & The Flower Kings

At the Filmore

Captain Capricorn wrote: Marillion & The Flower Kings

Agreed.

Sleepytime Gorilla museum! One of the biggest musical disppointments of my life! They're not intellectual, nor technical, nor thought provoking! I''ll tell you what they are, a joke! A really bad, poorly aimed joke!

Porcupine Tree - They have some good songs and some great albums, but that's it. I don't really see what differentiates them from many other good bands. They have some really terrible stuff too.

Others but thats by far the most overrated I can think of right now.

micky wrote: Matthew T wrote:  I see we all have our preferences, this is what makes the site interesting but now for mine and it may cause a sh*t storm but here it is   Kiss for me.. would cause a sh*t storm but for none of this being a surprise......the usual cast and crew... f**king Camel - nice group... nice music... an absolute blip on the radar for any kind of importance or consequence in prog.  What's worse.... they aren't even the best of that unchallenging sedate prog. The singer is attrocious... the band is *in relative prog terms* average, and the music.....  yawn.  At least Genesis was challenging... in it's own subtle ways. speaking of.. Genesis - how their albums are, with exception of one,  completely overrated on the site.  Don't agree.. look at the Lamb.. even people who like the album aknowledge the 2nd disk is a mess.  Doesn't stop that from being a HIGHLY ranked album.  God forbid in that happened to say... Tarkus if 50% of the material was judged.. subpar.   Anyhow... overrated in my book . not on the massive order as Camel is of course. If it's a Genesis album... and not pop..  you'll find it in the top 100.  Good or bad.. that is overrated. Jethro Tull - agree with some writers out there...  their prog stuff with one major exception is 2nd rate at best and mediocre at best.  The group was best and never topped the first 4 albums. Porcupine Tree-  interesting early stuff...  later stuff barely counts as progressive to these ears.. not to say it isn't good... but this is a prog site... we get paid to say the emporer has no clothes.  That is why SW's solo album surprised me so...  it was a departure from PT... and a damn fine album it is. stopping there before the AR mansion gets besieged

   Thats great about Tull and PT because I know you won't ask to loan em