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Robbie Basho - Seal of the Blue Lotus (1965)
John Fahey - The Voice of the Turtle (1965)
Ahmet Ertegun - Mess Around (1953 - covered by the Animals in 1965)
Woody Guthrie - This Land is Your Land (1944) - and yes, I'm serious
Leadbelly - Goodnight, Irene (1932)
 
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Originally posted by zicIy zicIy wrote:

"Zoot Suit" - The Who (1964)
"i΄m The Face" - The Who (1964)
 
I found these on "Quadrophenia - original soundtrack". What's proto-prog about these?
 
(BTW, also found some nice previously unreleased tracks from the original Quadrophenia album sessions on the soundtrack.)


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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by zicIy zicIy wrote:

"Zoot Suit" - The Who (1964)
"i΄m The Face" - The Who (1964)
 
I found these on "Quadrophenia - original soundtrack". What's proto-prog about these?
 
 
 
very simple that - no Zoot Suit, no I'm The Face 1964 - NO QUADROPHENIA 1973.
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Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

no hendrix or rolling stones?


No, and with good reason. Hendrix wasn't around, and the stones had hardly any prog relation, especially at that time.

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Points: 2157 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 12 2009 at 16:43
Suggestions so far:
 

Song                                                        Recorded/Released             Artist

Goodnight, Irene                                         ?/? ’32                                  Leadbelly

This Land is Your Land                               ?/? ’44                                  Woody Guthrie

Mess Around                                             ?/? ’53                                  Ahmet Ertegun

Milestones                                                 ’58                                       Miles Davis

Kind of Blue                                               ’59                                       Miles Davis

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek

Green Onions                                            June?/Aug ’62                      Booker T. & The MG’s

Chinese Checkers                                     ?/June ’63                             Booker T. & The MG’s

Mo’ Onions                                               ?/Dec ’63                             Booker T. & The MG’s

Not A Second Time                                    Sept/Nov ’63                         Beatles

I Call Your Name                                        Mar/June ’64                         Beatles

A Hard Day’s Night                                  April/July ’64                        Beatles

House of the Rising Sun                             May/June ’64                       Animals

Things We Said Today                               June/July ’64                        Beatles

Zoot Suit                                                   June/July ’64                        Who

I’m The Face                                            June/July                             Who

She's Not There                                         ?/July ’64                             Zombies

Go Now                                                     ?/Nov ’64                              Moody Blues

Every Little Thing                                        Sept/Dec ’64                        Beatles

I Feel Fine                                                 Oct/Nov ’64                        Beatles

Hesitation Blues                                         ?/? ’64                                 The Holy Modal Rounders

I Can’t Explain                                          Nov ‘64/Jan ’65                   Who
Raga                                                        ? '64/'68                               Seventh Sons
For Your Love                                          ?/Feb ’65                             Yardbirds

Play with Fire                                            Jan/Feb ‘65                          Rolling Stones

Subterranean Homesick Blues                    Jan/April ’65                          Bob Dylan

I Knew I’d Want You                               Jan/April ’65                         Byrds

Ticket To Ride                                            Feb/April ’65                         Beatles

You've Got To Hide Your Love Away            Feb/Aug ’65                         Beatles

Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere                    April/May ’65                      Who

California Girls                                          April/July ’65                       Beach Boys

Here Without You                                     April/July ’65                       Byrds

Heart Full Of Soul                                     ?/June ’65                            Yardbirds

Like A Rolling Stone                                 June/July ’65                        Bob Dylan

Desolation Row                                        June/Aug ’65                       Bob Dylan

See My Friends                                         ?/? ’65                                  Kinks

Yesterday                                                 June/Aug ’65                         Beatles

Still I’m Sad                                              ?/Oct ’65                             Yardbirds

It Won’t Be Wrong                                    Sept/Dec ’65                       Byrds

Stranger In A Strange Land                       Sept ‘65/’96                         Byrds

Norwegian Wood                                     Oct/Dec ’65                         Beatles

If I Needed Someone                                Oct/Dec ’65                         Beatles

In My Life                                                Oct/Dec ’65                         Beatles

Nowhere Man                                          Oct/Dec ’65                         Beatles

We Can Work It Out                                   Oct/Dec ’65                         Beatles

My Generation                                          Oct/Nov ’65                         Who

The Good’s Gone                                     ?/Dec ’65                             Who

The Ox                                                     ?/Dec ’65                             Who

The Word                                                 Nov/Dec ’65                        Beatles

Girl                                                           Nov ‘65/Dec ’65                     Beatles

Think For Yourself                                      Nov/Dec ’65                          Beatles

He Was A Friend Of Mine                        Nov/Dec ’65                        Byrds

Pet Sounds                                               Nov ‘65/May ’66                 Beach Boys

It’s No Secret                                           Dec ‘65/Sept 66                  Jefferson Airplane

High Flyin’ Bird                                        Dec ‘65/?                            Jefferson Airplane

Seal of the Blue Lotus                                ?/? ’65                              Robbie Basho                     

The Voice of the Turtle                                ?/? ’65                                 John Fahey

Shapes of Things                                       ‘65/Feb ’66                           Yardbirds



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Out of the ones not on your original list I would add. 
 
"We Can Work It Out".  Though not a psychedelic rock songs the harmonium swell pedal effects on "We Can Work it Out"  is just a prelude to what your hear later in 1966-1967.  Also the change of time signatures on the bridge a sure sign of proto-prog elements. The sound of the song is very unique at the time in rock music.
 
I would add the "Ox" by the Who it has very pre-sounding Hendrix guitar feedback on the track.  I would say a no to "Zoot Suit" and "Im the Face".  I would add "Heart Full of Soul", "See My Friends", and "You've Got Hide Your Love Away". That's IMO. Tongue
 
  
 
 
 


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Points: 2157 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 13 2009 at 15:06
Originally posted by Rank1 Rank1 wrote:

I would say a no to "Zoot Suit" and "Im the Face". 
 
I strongly tend to agree with you as I have already indicated above.
 
I'm also not sure about Go Now.
 
Although by bands (previously) listed as proto-prog, I don't find the songs themselves to be proto-prog.


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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek
 
 
I Hear A New World was recorded in 1959.
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Originally posted by zicIy zicIy wrote:

"Milestones", "Kind of Blue" ... Miles' albums pre'66...who made the better proto-prog than him at that ancient times ? Nobody. Big smile
 
Any particular tracks off these albums?
 
May I suggest All Blues and/or So What off Kind Of Blue?
 
Do not know Milestones, so need your help on this one.


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Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek
 
 
I Hear A New World was recorded in 1959.
 
Pinch  Christ, this is unbelievable. "Lightyears" ahead of its time !


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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek
 
 
I Hear A New World was recorded in 1959.
 
Pinch  Christ, this is unbelievable. "Lightyears" ahead of its time !
 
Tell me about it...tragic that he killed himself a few years after the recording Cry 
 
...Joe Meek is like the long lost prophet of psychedelic/space rock Smile
 
The Tornados would be a nice addition to that pre '66 playlist...Meek produced their music & incorperated a lot of his space effects into their sound...here is a link to their songs Telstar & Robot, both from '63:
 
 


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 - also, check out Attilio Mineo's Man In Space With Sounds (1962)
 
 
...as well as Louis & Bebe Barron's soundtrack to the 1956 film Forbidden Planet & Les Baxter's Music Out Of The Moon (1947).
 
I suppose all of this might work better for a pre '66 space playlist than a pre '66 prog playlist Cry


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Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

 
The Tornados would be a nice addition to that pre '66 playlist...Meek produced their music & incorperated a lot of his space effects into their sound...here is a link to their songs Telstar & Robot, both from '63:
 
 
 
Followed the links and they indeed fit the playlist.
 
Found this interesting info on Wikipedia, about their guitarist:

Rhythm guitarist George Bellamy is the father of Matthew Bellamy, frontman for British rock band Muse. The introduction in "Knights Of Cydonia" by Muse is very similar to that of "Telstar".
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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

 
The Tornados would be a nice addition to that pre '66 playlist...Meek produced their music & incorperated a lot of his space effects into their sound...here is a link to their songs Telstar & Robot, both from '63:
 
 
 
Followed the links and they indeed fit the playlist.
 
Found this interesting info on Wikipedia, about their guitarist:

Rhythm guitarist George Bellamy is the father of Matthew Bellamy, frontman for British rock band Muse. The introduction in "Knights Of Cydonia" by Muse is very similar to that of "Telstar".

 
...well that explains a lot!
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Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

I Hear a New World                                     ?/? ’60                                 Joe Meek
 
 
I Hear A New World was recorded in 1959.
 
Pinch  Christ, this is unbelievable. "Lightyears" ahead of its time !


Yeah, it really is. Do you think that Joe Meek would stand a chance as a proto-prog addition for this album?

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J.S.Bach's Brandemburg Concerto #5, allegro #2 with a killer harpsicord solo
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Dave Berry and "The crying game" comes to mind and Twinkle w/ "Terry"                                                             but my money is on The early Jefferson Airplane surrealistic pillow stuff.
The Beau Brummels Laugh Laugh.
 
Telstar w/ the Tornados
 
Last but not least my earliest recolection of prog goes to 1959 Tracey Pendarvis and "Thousand guitars"
 
                                                                                                                                                           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-paz1hfSc0
 
And this bloke                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCzjBZABec4&feature=related
 
 
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Originally posted by Odisseos Odisseos wrote:

J.S.Bach's Brandemburg Concerto #5, allegro #2 with a killer harpsicord solo
 
LOL.......Ermm
 
First I laughed, next I asked myself why not. Had the harpsichord been added to a rock/blues/R&B/R'n'R context, then perhaps yes. The mixing of classical music (technology) with other (moden) genres being the key of course.
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Points: 2157 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 16 2009 at 08:44
Originally posted by weetabix weetabix wrote:

 
Telstar w/ the Tornados
  
 
Discussed and added as per above.
 
 
Originally posted by weetabix weetabix wrote:

....my money is on The early Jefferson Airplane surrealistic pillow stuff.
 
Jefferson Airplane only just made to the list with some pre '66 stuff. By default, a few songs off their debut has already been added to the playlist.


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Just an observation:
 
Most of Rubber Soul has been included. Surely underlines its importance as a proto-prog album.


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