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micky
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 17:10 |
amen brother Ryan
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jimmy_row
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 17:15 |
You weren't supposed to take kindly to that! Have you now accepted that Ys kicks more ass than anything ELP did?
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micky
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 17:17 |
have I ever doubted that hahahha.... recall a recent post of mine.... ELP smokes anything Camel ever tried.. but YS smokes 99% of anything PROG ever did. There simply is not another album like that... anywhere.. then or now.
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jimmy_row
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 17:39 |
aye, at it with the Camel debate again. I get the feeling I've missed a few things (...things that I've probably seen before haha).
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micky
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 17:41 |
hahah.. this is PA's.... we live for rehashing old battles.. old threads.. old topics. The fun is trying to put new spins on them hahhah
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jimmy_row
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 17:46 |
I hope you guys have some good spin 'cause I just noticed 7 pages on it, haha. I'll bang my head into that intellectual door later on...for now, I'm out to dinner. I'll see you soon Michael, take it easy.
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micky
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Posted: March 11 2009 at 17:47 |
you too Ryan... great to see you around. We do miss you round these parts.
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Pekka
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 02:00 |
For some reason I've never listened to Area before, now I'm checking out the two sample tunes from the 'archives and thinking about buying Arbeit Macht Frei and Crac! Very good sounding stuff. edit: Damn this song from Crac! is brilliant And there's a really interesting review by LinusW that I'm reading while listening to this for the third time in a row.
Edited by Keppa4v - March 12 2009 at 02:16
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Pekka
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 03:44 |
Second round of YS in progress, and what the heck, I'm starting to get it
Despite the fact that I know very few Italian words part of the amusement of Italian prog for us Finns (or at least me )
is spotting familiar words. There are quite many cases due to the
somewhat similar phonetics of Finnish and Italian. Take for example the
descending "talo talo talo talo!" (incorrect spelling, I'm sure) line
around five minutes into Introduzione. To us it sounds like "house
house house house!"
And on Banco's Dopo... Niente è Più Lo Stesso I always hear the
"eroismo qui comincia" line as "Eero Ismo Mikko Misha", the three first
are Finnish male names and the fourth is a Russian name. And the
dramatic "VIVE!" sounds to us like "delay"
I'd like to learn Italian some day. It's a beautiful language and I
hear it's quite easy at least when compared to French which I tried for
five years in elementary school and junior high.
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 05:29 |
Interesting comments, Keppa4v!
It would be interesting to open a thread on this argument... Perhaps in the form of the game, so that we can find similar cases.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 06:59 |
Keppa4v wrote:
I'd like to learn Italian some day. It's a beautiful language and I
hear it's quite easy at least when compared to French which I tried for
five years in elementary school and junior high.
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There are more similarities between Italian and French than between Italian and Finnish.
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 07:14 |
Keppa4v wrote:
Second round of YS in progress, and what the heck, I'm starting to get it
Despite the fact that I know very few Italian words part of the amusement of Italian prog for us Finns (or at least me )
is spotting familiar words. There are quite many cases due to the
somewhat similar phonetics of Finnish and Italian. Take for example the
descending "talo talo talo talo!" (incorrect spelling, I'm sure) line
around five minutes into Introduzione. To us it sounds like "house
house house house!"
And on Banco's Dopo... Niente è Più Lo Stesso I always hear the
"eroismo qui comincia" line as "Eero Ismo Mikko Misha", the three first
are Finnish male names and the fourth is a Russian name. And the
dramatic "VIVE!" sounds to us like "delay"
I'd like to learn Italian some day. It's a beautiful language and I
hear it's quite easy at least when compared to French which I tried for
five years in elementary school and junior high.
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If I may indulge in some shameless plug, in 2002 Gummerus published an Italian grammar ( Italian peruskielioppi), half of which was written by me (I taught Italian in Finland from 1996 to 2001). So, should you be interested in learning some basics, you know where to turn to . Anyway, the similarities between some Italian words and some Finnish ones used to be an endless source of amusement for both me and my family when I lived there. I remember my late mom's hilarity when she first travelled to Finland to see me, and found that the Finnair in-flight magazine was called Lento ("flight" in Finnish, "slow" in Italian)
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Pekka
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 07:38 |
^Wow, cool I had to check if we have that book in our shelf since my girlfriend's been taking some italian lessons in University, but she had a different one. Let the first lesson begin: how do you really spell that "talo talo" thingy and what does it mean? And in which part of Finland did you live?
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Raff
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 07:46 |
I will have to check that 'talo talo talo" line... A good excuse for listening to the album again!
I think our book is used more for self-tuition and evening classes than for University teaching, so I'm not surprised she is using a different one. Anyway, I lived in Jyväskylä, and taught Italian at the Department of Romance Languages of the local University.
@ Eugene: Finnish and Italian are similar phonetically, not in any other aspects. Finnish is not even a Indo-European language, so it really can't resemble any of our languages.
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Pekka
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 07:56 |
^ Jyväskylä is a very nice town, I have some family there (Should go for visit very soon, my cousin just had a daughter with her Spanish husband and I haven't seen her yet. She's the cutest thing, I've seen some pictures.) It was a real pain in the ass trying to make all those throat gurgling sounds happen when studying French. It was nice to notice on my recent trip to Paris that hey, I can finally make those sounds, those five years were not complete waste of time. I didn't learn much else But back to the topic: Music was not the only thing Italians were good at in the early 70s, look at those record covers. Alphataurus, Semiramis, YS, Storia di Un Minuto and many more, wow. Very good stuff.
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micky
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 08:47 |
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Mandrakeroot
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 09:37 |
Keppa4v wrote:
^ Jyväskylä is a very nice town, I have some family there (Should go for visit very soon, my cousin just had a daughter with her Spanish husband and I haven't seen her yet. She's the cutest thing, I've seen some pictures.)
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Jyväskylä for me is the town of
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 10:51 |
guys, reading through this wonderfull tread , and this awesome italian prog fanbase community here , made me renew my interest for Italian Prog again. so i recently listened to some recomendation up here that i thought to check in the past but i didn't ,so one of them would be Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries, some psych moments ,i enyojed in it. . another gem i missed ,but checked now is Il Castello di Atlante - Come Il Seguitare Delle Stagioni, i love this album, such i great tunes, Premiata Forneria Marconi - Stati Di Immaginazione, i'am amazed by this band , after 37 years of making prog never lost their touch, Stati Di Immaginazione sounds as was released in the best years of prog; 70' , superb album. Maxophone - Maxophone, very interesting album, sax doing great job here,
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micky
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Posted: March 12 2009 at 10:54 |
awesome...glad we could be of service. we can't put the albums in people's hands.. but we do try to stimulate interest to check them out. btw. glad you enjoyed Sulle corde di aries.
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