Flower Kings Appreciation Thread

Shoot, in all honesty, if I only had three words, I'd go with something like 'need new tongue' or 'bring me Beckinsale'.

Seriously, Ronnie Stolt is fantastic and all, but I'm just sayin'

^welcome back Roj! Hope you had a great time!

I've just started school, so, really no good, haha.

I don't have any TFK DVD's nor Live albums, so, I can't help you there...

Roj M30 wrote: I haven't got any of the FK live albums or DVDs, which would everybody recommend as the best?

I think you really have to have both "Meet The Flower Kings" and "Instant Delivery" as they are very different from each-other and both excellent.

Essential viewing for a TFK fan

bassman4 wrote: I just received Meet The Flower Kings dvd.  I love it. I think this is a must have for any TFK fan  . No kiddin , this is a GREAT dvd. I would love to see these dudes live but, ... I don't know if the oppertunity will present itself.

Roj M30 wrote: This morning on my way to work I felt I needed to hear something uplifting so I decided to play Monsters And Men.  I only got Paradox Hotel recently, and have heard it 3 or 4 times to date. I knew I loved M & M, but couldn't remember all the themes etc.  Well, I have to say that I find it difficult to find the words to describe just how magnificent this piece of music (Monsters & Men) is. I had goosebumps virtually the entire 21:20, such is the beauty and emotion of this masterpiece.

Edited by progrules - March 13 2009 at 02:15

I'm like Nov in that it was hard for me to even consider putting a band on the same plane as Genesis, but The Flower Kings have reached that status in my mind.  My top five does include Frost*, IQ and Spock's Beard as well, but the last three are far below Genesis and The Flower Kings.

Roland113 wrote: I'm like Nov in that it was hard for me to even consider putting a band on the same plane as Genesis, but The Flower Kings have reached that status in my mind.  My top five does include Frost*, IQ and Spock's Beard as well, but the last three are far below Genesis and The Flower Kings.

Hi guys.

Edited by Roj M30 - March 13 2009 at 06:32

progrules wrote: Roland113 wrote: I'm like Nov in that it was hard for me to even consider putting a band on the same plane as Genesis, but The Flower Kings have reached that status in my mind.  My top five does include Frost*, IQ and Spock's Beard as well, but the last three are far below Genesis and The Flower Kings.   Interesting addition this. Which are the other four top bands. Well, in my personal biography you can read these are Dream Theater(+LTE), Symphony X, Collage/Satellite and Clepsydra and it will be that way for a long time to come because these are 4 (6) other bands that are in my blood and bones. The only thing they have in common with TFK is the production of teriffic melodic compositions. It's just that TFK does this best of them all ! TFK is on a lonesome extremely high level that's beyond everyone else's reach. And there's of course Pendragon but they only made two excellent albums (out of 10). About Genesis: I have the outmost respect for them but in the end I feel they are a bit overrated and of course far less than TFK. I'm a bit of an outcast on this site because my big love is not with the seventies era .

Progrules,

I understand what you mean, personally, I love Genesis but think that both Yes and King Crimson are terribly overrated. 

King Crimson is just a little too out there on many of their albums, I picked up Lark's Tongue and I just can't get the whole way through it .

Yes (along with Marillion) is a slightly different story, I can't get into them and I can't figure out why.  Everything says that I should, there's kind of a "If you like Genesis then you should like Yes" relationship for many, but I just don't like their music.  Similar thing with Marillion, "If you like Genesis and IQ you should like Marillion."  I've tried, they just don't quite do it for me.

Regarding being an outcast because you aren't in love with the 70's, I feel your pain.  I refer to them as the "70's forever" crowd.  At one point, someone posted the quote "All of the good music has already been written" which I thought was a sadly arrogant stance and a ludricas statement in general.

As a collection, I prefer the newer groups over the older groups.  If I had to do a top ten, I'd add Dream Theater, Peter Gabriel, Riverside then pick two out of Satellite, Porcupine Tree, Siege's Even, Pain of Salvation, Singularity and Sylvan.  (Speaking if which, if you haven't heard Singularity, I highly recommend them)  Anyways, my point, with the exception of Peter Gabriel and Genesis, I generally prefer the modern prog scene over the 70's.

But, back to the original point, The Flower Kings are absolutely amazing.  Has anyone heard if they're planning on touring the US at all this year?  They usually try to make the trek once a year if I understand correctly.  We saw them last year at the 3RP. 

Here's a sign of a great band (and a harbringer of a long post), last year I didn't have Unfold the Future and Back in the World yet.  Of course when we saw them live, the two bookends of the set were "The Truth Will Set You Free" and "World of Adventures".  Despite being a big Flower King fan, I barely knew much of their set list.  I was a little disappointed that I didn't see my favorite songs, but still walked out thinking that it was one of the best concerts that I've seen.

They were that good.

Roland113 wrote: progrules wrote: Roland113 wrote: I'm like Nov in that it was hard for me to even consider putting a band on the same plane as Genesis, but The Flower Kings have reached that status in my mind.  My top five does include Frost*, IQ and Spock's Beard as well, but the last three are far below Genesis and The Flower Kings.   Interesting addition this. Which are the other four top bands. Well, in my personal biography you can read these are Dream Theater(+LTE), Symphony X, Collage/Satellite and Clepsydra and it will be that way for a long time to come because these are 4 (6) other bands that are in my blood and bones. The only thing they have in common with TFK is the production of teriffic melodic compositions. It's just that TFK does this best of them all ! TFK is on a lonesome extremely high level that's beyond everyone else's reach. And there's of course Pendragon but they only made two excellent albums (out of 10). About Genesis: I have the outmost respect for them but in the end I feel they are a bit overrated and of course far less than TFK. I'm a bit of an outcast on this site because my big love is not with the seventies era . Progrules, I understand what you mean, personally, I love Genesis but think that both Yes and King Crimson are terribly overrated.  King Crimson is just a little too out there on many of their albums, I picked up Lark's Tongue and I just can't get the whole way through it . Yes (along with Marillion) is a slightly different story, I can't get into them and I can't figure out why.  Everything says that I should, there's kind of a "If you like Genesis then you should like Yes" relationship for many, but I just don't like their music.  Similar thing with Marillion, "If you like Genesis and IQ you should like Marillion."  I've tried, they just don't quite do it for me. Regarding being an outcast because you aren't in love with the 70's, I feel your pain.  I refer to them as the "70's forever" crowd.  At one point, someone posted the quote "All of the good music has already been written" which I thought was a sadly arrogant stance and a ludricas statement in general. As a collection, I prefer the newer groups over the older groups.  If I had to do a top ten, I'd add Dream Theater, Peter Gabriel, Riverside then pick two out of Satellite, Porcupine Tree, Siege's Even, Pain of Salvation, Singularity and Sylvan.  (Speaking if which, if you haven't heard Singularity, I highly recommend them)  Anyways, my point, with the exception of Peter Gabriel and Genesis, I generally prefer the modern prog scene over the 70's.