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    Posted: October 02 2004 at 23:59
Hey,

Im looking for a band which is fond of the violin, or any classical instrument for that matter. Guitars, violins, and pianos have always existed in harmony according to my ears. ;)

If the band had a classical-period and a typical drums-guitar-keyboard period, please specify a time period or albums.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 00:17

Try definitely Darryl Way's Wolf!!

Saturation point and Canis lupus are excellent albums which mix powerful guitars and violin; it is slightly different from Curved Air.

Curved Air is another excellent choice, with Eddie Jobson on violins!



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 01:05
Kansas...early years
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 02:29
Simon House played violin in Hawkwind on the albums 'Hall of the mountain grill' 'Astounding Sound' Quark, Strangeness & Charm' You'll probably have trouble getting these albums now, though. The songs were good, but some of the playing was quite erratic.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 02:53
Geoff Richardson in Caravan who actually plays the viola... just saw him a few weeks ago in concert with Caravan tho.. he's still excellent.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 03:43

Mick Kaminski's Violinski.

http://www.orchestra.fsworld.co.uk/biog_mikframe.htm

(Also, if you like a bit of Brit Folk Rock, check out Fairport Convention, or Steeleye Span.)

Gryphon used many classical instruments that date back a lot futher than the usual standard orchestra sellection.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 04:55

Check out Quella Vecchia Locanda's s/t first album. My review in the Archives even mentions that there is a lot of violin on the album. Nice.

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 05:09
I suppose it's down to me to mention Gentle Giant then
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 05:28

There's some violin in

Saint just/la casa del lago (italian)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 05:56
King Crimson
had David Cross playing violin/viola and mellotron on Larks Tongues,Starless & Bible Black and Red.
The Flock.
Who included violinist Jerry Goodman who went on to be
a member of The Mahavishnu Orchestra.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 10:38
I know they're not always well regarded in these parts, but the Electric Light Orchestra's early work had some great violin, especially their excellent "Eldorado" album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 11:39
Eddie Jobson with UK and his solo album The Green Album

Allan Holdsworth with Tempest and Soft Machine (although not recorded with the latter playing fiddle)

Ed Allyene Johnson guesting on a couple of  New Model Army albums and  his own solo albums, e.g. Purple Electric Violin Concerto.

David Cross (already mentioned with  Krimson) but check out his solo albums  Exiles, Testing To Destruction.

Lady violinist Caryn Lin, Tolerance For Ambiguity (Alchemy Records) - one of my favourite prog albums of the 90's - and alas I never managed to find any of her other recordings.

Simon House, was the leader of High Tide (an English proto prog band ), similar to in style (i.e. anglo psychedlia/prog) to East Of Eden (reportedly their first two albums about to be remastered. reissued again on CD). East of Eden's Dave Arbus, did the fiddling on the Who's Next album.

On the jazz (rock) side Jean Luc Ponty immediately comes to mind, and he did several cross-over albums in the 80's experimenting with electronics. Others  include Michel Urbaniak, Steve Kindler (I prefer his work as part of the Jan Hammer Group - Oh Well!, Melodies - more than his work with  other musicians) and Didier Lockwood. Jerry Goodman has already been mentioned - but check out his solo work when with Private Music Records in the 80's, and the album he did with Jan Hammer Like Children, after both had just left Mahavishnu.

And to virtuoso classical trained musicians dabbling.  Nigel Kennedy, between the very successful classical releases, has issued a number of hit or miss albums, posing as rock, e.g. Kafka, The Kennedy Experience (the latter reinterpretation of Hendrix). Kennedy has a great ability to sound like Stephane Grapelli, Jean Luc Ponty or Eddie Jobson at various times - and I often wonder whether the classical training has eliminated that element of freedom from his playing. Vanessa Mai:  looks pretty but forget the rock. Then you might enjoy the string trios indulging themselves in rock repertoise, e.g. Daryl Anger (for instance with the Turtle Island Strong Quartet), has ranged from the modern serious to blue grass, taking in RTF, Hendrix and Robert Johnson, and then there are the Kronos Quartet, who  best known for their interpretation of Hendrix.

Then you get a few playing the cello - David Darling, Jack Bruce. Although Anekdoten's Sofi plays the instrument, I wonder if her level of playing is similar to that Brian Eno's in the Portsmouth Symphonia ?

There are a heap of folk violinists - Dave Swarbrick immediately jumps to mind, but another names associated with Fairport Convention. In particular Ric Sanders, who also has played with Soft Machine, and then did the album with fellow Soft Machist, John Etheridge 2nd Vision, which hasa fair chunk of prog rock (recently reissued by Blueprint records in the UK).

Owing more the blues: check out Papa John Creech who played with Jefferson Airplane on their last 3 or 4 albums, and Sugarcane Harris (e.g. for his contributions to the Zappa/Captain Beefheart tune Willie The Pimp on Hot Rats, and to some John Mayall recordings, e.g. Back To The Roots)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 16:29

Quote Im looking for a band which is fond of the violin, or any classical instrument for that matter.

ÄNGLAGÅRD

This is the lineup from the album EPILOG, because in the first one HYBRIS the violin, viola players are not in the credit because they are not official members of the band eventhough it's at least as good and symphonic as EPILOG.

Mattias Olsson: drums, cymbals and percussion
Johan Högberg: bass
Thomas Johnson: Hammond organ, mellotrons, grand piano and other keyboards
Jonas Engdegård: guitars
Tord Lindman: guitars
Anna Holmgren: Flute

With:

Åsa Eklund: voice
Martin Olofsson: violin
Karin Hansson: viola and double bass
Jan Christoff Norlander: cello

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PAR LINDH PROJECT

As symphonic as Anglagard but a bit more Baroque and sometims Gothic, simply outstanding

- Pär Lindh / Organ, piano, Harpsichord, Hammond, mellotron, synths, percussion, 12-string guitar
- Magdalena Hagberg / vocals
- Nisse Bielfeld / drums, percussion
- Marcus Jäderholm / bass
- Jocke Ramsell / guitars

WITH:

- Anna Holmgren / Flute 
- Singillatim Choir
- Jonas Bengtsson / recorder
- Inge Thorsson / Violin
- Michael Axelsson / Oboe
- Aron Lind / Trombone

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You can also try A New World Record by Electric Light Orchestra who mixed classical instruments but in a more commercial format 

KANSAS, also uses a killer classical vilolin.

 

Quote If the band had a classical-period and a typical drums-guitar-keyboard period, please specify a time period or albums.

Anglagard has only 3 albums, Hybris, Epilog and Buried Alive, the three are outstanding and absolutely classical even when the last one is a Live Album.

Everything by Par Lindh Project is full of classical instruments and symphonic music.

I'm not an expert in ELECTRIC LIGHT ORCHESTRA, but I'm sure you would like A New World Record. The first two albums are also very good.

Kansas is a great band with more than 25 official studio, live and compilatory albums but avoid Monolith and  Audio Visions, but SPECIALLY AVOID Vinyl Confessions, Drastic Measures, Powerand In the Spirit of Things.

Hope this helps you Sodfather.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 16:34
king crimson tend to go for stuff like woodwind instruments a lot.

I am into Hope of the States at the moment. They a great band which combine rock with violinists which hasn't been done for a while in mainstream british rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 03 2004 at 18:44
Wow, superb responses. I will be sorting through all of this recommendations for days. Thanks a million, learned prog viziers. :P

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