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    Posted: March 03 2009 at 13:39
I'm trying to create a playlist of proto-prog prior to 1966. I need your collaboration, so please fill in any blanks you find - any pre-'66 song you think may have contributed to the development of prog.
 
You can hear the playlist "Proto-prog pre-'67" at Wolfgang's Vault  http://concerts.wolfgangsvault.com/  under "Top Playlists". It's not complete as I have only used the live recordings available at Wolfgang's Vault.
 
Song                                                                Recorded/Released      Artist

Green Onions                                   June?/Aug ’62          Booker T. & The MG’s

Chinese Checkers                            ?/June ’63                 Booker T. & The MG’s

Mo’ Onions                                     ?/Dec ’63                  Booker T. & The MG’s

A Hard Day’s Night                        April/July ’64             Beatles

I Feel Fine                                      Oct/Nov ’64               Beatles

I Can’t Explain                                Nov ‘64/Jan ’65         Who

For Your Love                                ?/Feb ’65                   Yardbirds

I Knew I’d Want You                     Jan/April ’65               Byrds

Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere          April/May ’65             Who

Here Without You                           April/July ’65              Byrds

Desolation Row                               June/Aug ’65              Bob Dylan

Still I’m Sad                                     ?/Oct ’65                   Yardbirds

It Won’t Be Wrong                          Sept/Dec ’65              Byrds

Stranger In A Strange Land              Sept ‘65/’96               Byrds

Norwegian Wood                             Oct/Dec ’65               Beatles

If I Needed Someone                        Oct/Dec ’65              Beatles

In My Life                                       Oct/Dec ’65               Beatles

Nowhere Man                                  Oct/Dec ’65              Beatles

My Generation                                 Oct/Nov ’65               Who

The Good’s Gone                              ?/Dec ’65                  Who

The Word                                         Nov/Dec ’65             Beatles

He Was A Friend Of Mine                Nov/Dec ’65             Byrds

Pet Sounds                                       Nov ‘65/May ’66       Beach Boys

It’s No Secret                                  Dec ‘65/Sept 66         Jefferson Airplane

High Flyin’ Bird                               Dec ‘65/?                   Jefferson Airplane



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no hendrix or rolling stones?

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Some of the early Yardbirds is about as proto as it gets.
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Originally posted by DJPuffyLemon DJPuffyLemon wrote:

no hendrix or rolling stones?
 
1964 and 1965 is a bit too early for Hendrix to qualify?!
 
The Stones weren't progressive until '67's Satanic Majesties Request?
 
Name any Stones song from '64-'65 that could be considered proto-prog.
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The Animals "House of the Rising Sun"
The Kinks "See My Friends"
The Rolling Stones" Play With Fire"
The Who "The Ox"
The Yardbirds "Heart Full Of Soul"
 
The Beatles
 
"Not A Second Time"
"Things We Said Today"
"Every Little Thing"
"Yesterday"
"Girl"
"We Can Work It Out"


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Thumbs Up Beautiful, Rank1 ! Much appreciated.
 
I was about to list The Animals myself. And I had completely forgotten "The Ox".
 
Thanks.
 
BTW, there's also Seventh Sons - an excerpt would fit the playlist.
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Joe Meek - I Hear a New World (1960)
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"Hesitation Blues" - The Holy Modal Rounders (1964)
"Zoot Suit" - The Who (1964)
"i´m The Face" - The Who (1964)


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not pre '66, but i like to mentioned that great instrumental track - "East West"  by Paul Butterfield Blues Band (1966)
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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Some of the early Yardbirds is about as proto as it gets.

Agreed; a lot of stuff off of Having a Rave Up or Roger the Engineer would qualify. If nothing, play "Still I'm Sad," and be amazed that that thing was produced in 1965. 

The Beach Boys are a treasure trove of course. Pet Sounds is chock full of wonderful crap, but going back to "California Girls," and, BOOM! The very first rock song with an overture. 
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Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Some of the early Yardbirds is about as proto as it gets.

Agreed; a lot of stuff off of Having a Rave Up or Roger the Engineer would qualify. If nothing, play "Still I'm Sad," and be amazed that that thing was produced in 1965. 

The Beach Boys are a treasure trove of course. Pet Sounds is chock full of wonderful crap, but going back to "California Girls," and, BOOM! The very first rock song with an overture. 

 
Roger the Engineer  was recorded in the spring and summer of 1966. Many people forget that most of Pet Sounds was recorded in 1966 and was finished when the Beatles started recording Revolver. The only songs on Pet Sounds that were recorded and finished in 1965 were "Sloop John B" and "Pet Sounds. Tracks like "God Only Knows" were recorded in March and April of 1966.
 
The Zombies-  "She's Not There" August 1964
The Moody Blues-  "Go Now"  November 1964
The Yardbirds- Shapes of Things recorded in late 1965 and released in Feb 1966
 
 
Some Beatle tracks
 
"Ticket To Ride" noted for it's massive chiming and droning bass guitar sound. The raga-rock drum pattern would be followed the next year on "Tomorrow Never Knows". The track uses varispeeding
 
"You've Got To Hide Your Love Away" a very folksy song two-bridge pop song that is in 3/4 time signature in Mixolydian Mode. The fade out with flutes has a baroque styled ending
 
"Think For Yourself" is a tour de force in altered scales with lyrics that is political in nature. The song is well known for its use of a double bass style one lead fuzz bass and the other regular tone.
 
This has a nice musical timeline of 1962-1966 Beatles if anyone is interested.
 
 
 
 


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Originally posted by zicIy zicIy wrote:

not pre '66, but i like to mentioned that great instrumental track - "East West"  by Paul Butterfield Blues Band (1966)
 
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What about Ringo's mambo drumming on I Feel Fine from 1964?
Or I Call Your Name from 1964 with a rim shot and change of signature and a middle 8 guitar melody not related, derivative or variation of the main melody?
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"Milestones", "Kind of Blue" ... Miles' albums pre'66...who made the better proto-prog than him at that ancient times ? Nobody. Big smile

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Originally posted by jammun jammun wrote:

Originally posted by zicIy zicIy wrote:

not pre '66, but i like to mentioned that great instrumental track - "East West"  by Paul Butterfield Blues Band (1966)
 
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thanks for this applause, Jammun!Smile yeah, that 13 minutes long instrumental  is the first progressive rock track, in my opinion.
 


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Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" is a must for this list, I think!
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Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" is a must for this list, I think!
 
Subterranean Homesick Blues?
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Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" is a must for this list, I think!
 
Subterranean Homesick Blues?


I need to hear that one again, I can't really remember how it sounds...
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Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Originally posted by Captain Capricorn Captain Capricorn wrote:

Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Bob Dylan's "Like a Rolling Stone" is a must for this list, I think!
 
Subterranean Homesick Blues?


I need to hear that one again, I can't really remember how it sounds...
 
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Originally posted by Rank1 Rank1 wrote:

The Rolling Stones" Play With Fire"
 
Not a big early (or late) Stones fan myself, so I borrowed "Out of your Heads" and understand why you mention it.
 
Beautiful song enhanced by the harpsichord.
 
"Yesterday's Papers" (recorded Nov '66, released Jan '67) also uses harpsichord.


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