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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Dean, what on earth is your signature?
She's Hexadecimal from the Canadian animate series ReBoot. it's part of a minor facination I have with using masks to portray emotions rather than to hide them (Japanese Noh Theatre, Venetian Commedia dell'Arte etc.). My Avatar is based on Commedia dell'Arte.
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Minor fascination? LOLEmbarrassed
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^ well, it doesn't rule my life Wink
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Rico are these performances definitive? I don't quite need the complete Chopin, but for that price I'm ok with getting extra discs.


Sounds good to me. Thumbs Up

I don't have a full collection of Rubinstein plays Chopin, actually. Out of what I have, the preludes are dearest to me.
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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Dean, what on earth is your signature?
She's Hexadecimal from the Canadian animate series ReBoot. it's part of a minor facination I have with using masks to portray emotions rather than to hide them (Japanese Noh Theatre, Venetian Commedia dell'Arte etc.). My Avatar is based on Commedia dell'Arte.
 
i saw the masked ones in Venice some years ago, they look amazing around St.Mark's Square with their costumes on, i even managed to get a few to pose for me ..Big smile
 
 
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I think the one on the right goes to the Swindon Goth Meets. LOL
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Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Dean, what on earth is your signature?
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Jared, I am looking to buy a set of Beethoven's symphonies, do you have any recommendations? I was thinking of going with Klemperer, but the endless recordings are deeply confusing.

Also, if you have any thoughts on Mozart's Requiem, Vivaldi, and Chopin, that would be fantastic.
 
Hi Henry,
 
Beethoven:
 
There are so many on the market these days, that you are spoilt for choice, however most critics still see one of the definitive sets as being Karajan's 1962/3 set on DG.  The recently released Claudio Abbado set, also on DG, is also to be highly recommended.  If you're looking for a budget set, then Zinman's set with the Tonhalle on Arte Nova is as good as they get... when it comes to Beethoven, this guy punches way above his weight with this orchestra.
 
Mozart's Requiem:
 
Try and go for a 'Historically Informed' version (original instruments/ orchestra size) as opposed to a lagre Philharmonic.. the work needs to sound light and crisp, rather than stodgy and syruppy... there are a couple I would recommend... John Eliot Gardiner's on Philips, or Hickox's on Virgin (which happens also to be remarkably cheap).  One legendary recording which breaks the above mould however is Bernstein's on DG.
 
Vivaldi:
 
I'm not sure what you're after, but I'm biased towards Trevor Pinnock, and there is no two ways about it; his 5CD box set of Concerti on Archiv, recorded in the mid 80's is the way to go.  If however, you just want a taster as you haven't got the money, then try:
 
Vivaldi: 7 Concerti For Woodwind And Strings
 
 
Chopin:
 
I must admit, I'm no expert here...but if you're after some Piano music, Vladimir Ashkenazy on Decca would be a good start... I'd ask Ricochet about this one...Wink
 
I hope that has helped... if you need any more info, PM me...Smile
Thanks for your help!

The problem I have with Karajan is that I don't like this whole thing of warping tempos because the conductor thinks it sounds dramatic, and even if the rest of it is very good and I'm being prejudiced, everyone agrees that his Pastoral is terrible,
 
 
i have heard many versions of Beethoven's 6th Pastoral Symphony, tempo issues aside Karajan's reading of this work is my favourite and to me the most involving, as many versions i have heard sound a bit plodding in comparison - but everyone hears things differently.  I have heard tempo issues discussed a lot in Classical music where conductors have made artistic changes to pieces where they deem appropriate, though personally i  think metronome-perfect music could lack the "human" factor in some cases.
 
in rock music  if you see a band and know their recorded music very well it is sometimes a shock to hear them bashing through their songs at breakneck speed to enhance the live music, and the tempo can vary wildly, adding  excitement  to it all - i would ask experienced musicians how important keeping "in perfect time" actually is in music, or does it get in the way? Confused
 
 


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Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

i saw the masked ones in Venice some years ago, they look amazing around St.Mark's Square with their costumes on, i even managed to get a few to pose for me ..Big smile


Reminds me in a way of the living statues around the Uffizi in Florence:



This isn't my photo, but I remember this one distinctly - I believe I have a photo of Vicky with him somewhere...

There is something about Italian cities such as Florence & Venice... quite breathtaking places.

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Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

i saw the masked ones in Venice some years ago, they look amazing around St.Mark's Square with their costumes on, i even managed to get a few to pose for me ..Big smile


Reminds me in a way of the living statues around the Uffizi in Florence:



This isn't my photo, but I remember this one distinctly - I believe I have a photo of Vicky with him somewhere...

There is something about Italian cities such as Florence & Venice... quite breathtaking places.


I guess you're never been to RomeWink.... My hometown is probably the only thing I really miss now. In spite of all the problems it has, it is a place like no one else, and the only one in Italy where I'd want to live (and believe me, I tried the 'small is beautiful' thing... Never again!).
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LOL

But I wanna go to Venice! Ouch
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Vic, go wherever you wantWinkLOL...
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Points: 14693 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 06:32
Now now Rico - that sounded distinctly petulant; we don't do petulant in The Shed...



...creaky, doddery & a bit forgetful, maybe, but not



not....

No - completely forgot what I was saying

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You were saying something about ladies undergarments, I do believe.
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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

LOLBut I wanna go to Venice! Ouch


Take care. The roads are always flooded there

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

LOLBut I wanna go to Venice! Ouch


Take care. The roads are always flooded there


I don't drive. Tongue

But...do I get off the train somewhere near to the city and then take the submarine?
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Being an admin, I just walk

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Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by mystic fred mystic fred wrote:

i saw the masked ones in Venice some years ago, they look amazing around St.Mark's Square with their costumes on, i even managed to get a few to pose for me ..Big smile


Reminds me in a way of the living statues around the Uffizi in Florence:



This isn't my photo, but I remember this one distinctly - I believe I have a photo of Vicky with him somewhere...

There is something about Italian cities such as Florence & Venice... quite breathtaking places.


I guess you're never been to RomeWink.... My hometown is probably the only thing I really miss now. In spite of all the problems it has, it is a place like no one else, and the only one in Italy where I'd want to live (and believe me, I tried the 'small is beautiful' thing... Never again!).
Debs and Alex went to Venice over half-term and came back with loads of photos like this. Debs said it was like being at the Gothic Weekend in Whitby LOL
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Being an admin, I just walk


But only Mike By-Tor can walk on water. Tongue
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Now I know there's the Stoker connection with Whitby, but "The Whitby Gothic Weekend" sounds about as plausible as "The Stevenage Rennaisance Fayre"

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Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Being an admin, I just walk
But only Mike By-Tor can walk on water. Tongue


Only 'cos his father taught him.

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