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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 08:32
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

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Also note that any of the larger specimens may take a year before there is any new growth.They have to rebuild their root systems.
also a good idea to take cuttings before you dig them up just in case you lose any.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 08:35
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

^ Also note that any of the larger specimens may take a year before there is any new growth.They have to rebuild their root systems.

also a good idea to take cuttings before you dig them up just in case you lose any.

That is a very good idea.

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 08:44
I'm getting confused now - whereabouts on the squirrel does one take the cutting from & where do you implant it on the rabbit? Also if you keep it in water, wouldn't the rabbit stew go all runny?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 08:45
Seriously though - many thanks for the tips (as the rabbi said to the mother etc etc)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 08:56
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Jared, I am looking to buy a set of Beethoven's symphonies, do you have any recommendations? I was thinking of going with Klemperer, but the endless recordings are deeply confusing.

Also, if you have any thoughts on Mozart's Requiem, Vivaldi, and Chopin, that would be fantastic.
 
Chopin:
 
I must admit, I'm no expert here...but if you're after some Piano music, Vladimir Ashkenazy on Decca would be a good start... I'd ask Ricochet about this one...Wink
 


Rubinstein and Perahia, two musts in this category!

BTW, I also recommended Henry the new Abbado Beethoven Symphonies set. I enjoyed it very much. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:36
^^^ I own the Abbado set, Riccy...its excellent, especially No 9...Clap
 
Of course, Perahia is the man at the moment, isn't he?  His recent Mozart Piano Concertos are the ones to get...Wink  That said, I'm personally just not familiar enough with Chopin to make a judgement..Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:49
Not necessarily "the man of the moment", but an established world-class pianist. Saw him in Bucharest, two years ago. Fantastic recital. http://ricohalloway.livejournal.com/1605.html

Speaking of "men of the moment", I think Arcadi Volodos fully qualifies as one. Saw him in Austria (the main reason for my trip)...breathless. Scriabin, Ravel, Liszt, but most of all Schumann's Waldszene, which received an absolutely superb interpretation, it shook my world.

(Volodos' CD of Rach III, with Levine, is quite a Bible chapter too)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:37
Are you aware that Murray Perahia's brother is the founder and guitarist of a Christian metal band called Joshua (his first name)? At least, I remember that they were brothers, but I could be wrong...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:50
I can't seem to find any info on that...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 12:01
That's true, but I distinctly remember hearing that they were brothers, way back in the Eighties (when I listened to a lot of metalLOL). No idea if it is true, though the surname is not what I'd call a very common one...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 12:12
Murray was born in 1947. How old would Joshua be?

I can't find a proper mention of Joshua's birthdate, birthplace, family.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 12:21
Joshua? Probably somewhat older than me, in his early-mid fifties. Anyway, since Murray is of Jewish origin, and Joshua is a Christian, I wouldn't be surprised he was estranged from his family. Such things happen, unfortunately (and I have an example very close to me, though it's not for religious reasons).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 12:24
I quite noticed the born-Jew making Christian rock irony, too, yeah.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 15:14
Originally posted by limeyrob limeyrob wrote:

I hear the grey squirrel could be subject to a cull. About time too. In preparation has anyone got any decent squirrel recipes?


One of the new crisp flavours being tried out is "Cajun Squirrel". The thing is, who knows what squirrel tastes like anyway? Not that keen on them myself but they're better than the Chilli and Chocolate ones. Sorry, but crisps tasting of cocoa is just wrong. Dead
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 16:42
Grey squirrels, rhododrendrons, Japanese knotweed, signal crayfish, Himalayan balsam and a few other imported invasive species need to be removed from our countryside. They are taking over at the expense of native flora and fauna. I was going to start this comment with 'I'm sorry to say.....' but I'm not as I'm not. It's probably too late but we need to get acting pdq before we are overtaken by them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 19:05
^ you forgot the wallabies - we're being over-run by wallabies - they're damn smart, because you get to know about the ones that get in trouble - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/3613780.stm - obviously the law abiding ones keep their heads down, or pretend to be small kangaroos, or big field mice.
 
I love the line: A spokesman for Tiggywinkles said: "We're starting to get calls, ... ,  for wallabies, which weren't there before..."  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 23:11
Add Ostrichs,Chavs and Llamas to the list

Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 00:44
Dean, what on earth is your signature?
Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Jared, I am looking to buy a set of Beethoven's symphonies, do you have any recommendations? I was thinking of going with Klemperer, but the endless recordings are deeply confusing.

Also, if you have any thoughts on Mozart's Requiem, Vivaldi, and Chopin, that would be fantastic.
 
Hi Henry,
 
Beethoven:
 
There are so many on the market these days, that you are spoilt for choice, however most critics still see one of the definitive sets as being Karajan's 1962/3 set on DG.  The recently released Claudio Abbado set, also on DG, is also to be highly recommended.  If you're looking for a budget set, then Zinman's set with the Tonhalle on Arte Nova is as good as they get... when it comes to Beethoven, this guy punches way above his weight with this orchestra.
 
Mozart's Requiem:
 
Try and go for a 'Historically Informed' version (original instruments/ orchestra size) as opposed to a lagre Philharmonic.. the work needs to sound light and crisp, rather than stodgy and syruppy... there are a couple I would recommend... John Eliot Gardiner's on Philips, or Hickox's on Virgin (which happens also to be remarkably cheap).  One legendary recording which breaks the above mould however is Bernstein's on DG.
 
Vivaldi:
 
I'm not sure what you're after, but I'm biased towards Trevor Pinnock, and there is no two ways about it; his 5CD box set of Concerti on Archiv, recorded in the mid 80's is the way to go.  If however, you just want a taster as you haven't got the money, then try:
 
Vivaldi: 7 Concerti For Woodwind And Strings
 
 
Chopin:
 
I must admit, I'm no expert here...but if you're after some Piano music, Vladimir Ashkenazy on Decca would be a good start... I'd ask Ricochet about this one...Wink
 
I hope that has helped... if you need any more info, PM me...Smile
Thanks for your help!

The problem I have with Karajan is that I don't like this whole thing of warping tempos because the conductor thinks it sounds dramatic, and even if the rest of it is very good and I'm being prejudiced, everyone agrees that his Pastoral is terrible, and I hate buying things twice. I think I'm going to go with Abbado, both you and Rico recommend it, and from what I understand, he plays it faster (or at the proper speed?), and I am impatient. ;-) And who can pass up the Berlin Philharmonic recorded in glorious digital clarity? Klemperer is also famous, but I didn't realize before that he was of the Karajan slow approach. By the way, is Abbado using the updated score Zinman used?

Gardiner sounds good, there's no reason to cheap out when it's the only version I plan on buying. You are right, there is a huge difference between Bernstein and Gardiner. I am sucker for the big Romantic sound, but Bernstein sounds like he's overdoing it. On Youtube, his Lacrymosa is almost twice as long as Gardiner's!

Pinnock sounds great, although I'm not sure if I'm ready for 5 discs of Concerti, despite my deep love for the 4 Seasons, because I've heard some of Vivaldi's other work on the radio, and none of it was as good as 4 Seasons, even if they still included some air violin moments. ;-) I guess the piercing violin tone on his 4 Seasons is the result of period instruments, but I've never heard anything like that, and it sounds fantastic. 

Rico are these performances definitive? I don't quite need the complete Chopin, but for that price I'm ok with getting extra discs.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 00:58
just returned from a beautiful Russian program at one of our local concert halls;  Shostakovich's Piano Concerto in C minor, Prokofiev's Visions fugitives, and Tchaikovsky's Souvenir de Florence   ...astonishing music from that most rebellious of Russian music in the 20 century.  Spectacular.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 06 2009 at 02:10
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

^ you forgot the wallabies - we're being over-run by wallabies - they're damn smart, because you get to know about the ones that get in trouble - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/3613780.stm - obviously the law abiding ones keep their heads down, or pretend to be small kangaroos, or big field mice.
 

I love the line: A spokesman for Tiggywinkles said: "We're starting to get calls, ... ,  for wallabies, which weren't there before..."  LOL


What about the one which drowned in someone's swimming pool? There's a conversation I'd have like to have heard...

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