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Hawkwise 
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 Topic: If you Met Dr Who ?
Posted: March 03 2009 at 19:08 |
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Where in Prog Land would you get him to take you ?
I would go back to 1972 and the Greyhound Croydon and Amon Duul 2 .
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Posted: March 03 2009 at 19:16 |
Now this rocks as a question, combining two of my loves...Prog and the Doctor. 
But...screw prog...I'd have him take me far into the future. But if he would only take me back into progland, I'd have him take me to an early Genesis concert...very early, before Phillips left, where they were still playing some songs that were never released. That'd be cool.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 02:39 |
 Hawkwise wrote:
Where in Prog Land would you get him to take you ?
I would go back to 1972 and the Greyhound Croydon and Amon Duul 2 .
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To provoke some discussion, rather than just a list of places and times, maybe you could explain why that particular gig above all others. 
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 08:56 |
The Doctor wrote:
Now this rocks as a question, combining two of my loves...Prog and the Doctor.
But...screw prog...I'd have him take me far into the future. |
yeah, as a lover of what i view as progressive music, i'd go 50 or 100 years in the future... id love to hear what rock music sounds like then, or if it even if it exists. then i might go 5000 years or something and see what music sounds like. that would be incredible.
then id probably go to the rainbow in 1975 to see Hatfield and the north. if i didnt, id always be thinking 'what if?'
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Hawkwise
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 09:24 |
Yes should done that first off , Well seeing as i have been around now for half a century i was lucky enough to get to see all my fav Prog bands back in the 70s but one band i didn't get to see back then was Amon Duul 2, My Older Brother Terry did go to that Amon Duul2 gig in Croydon and still to this day he says it was one of the best Gigs with one the best Vibes he ever went to, Now this is coming from someone (much like my self) who was lucky to see all the Greats of Prog at one time or other over the years. Means it must of been one hell of a good gig. so into the Tardis we go back to 72 and the Greyhound Croydon.
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 09:48 |
Froth wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Now this rocks as a question, combining two of my loves...Prog and the Doctor.
But...screw prog...I'd have him take me far into the future. |
yeah, as a lover of what i view as progressive music, i'd go 50 or 100 years in the future... id love to hear what rock music sounds like then, or if it even if it exists. then i might go 5000 years or something and see what music sounds like. that would be incredible.
then id probably go to the rainbow in 1975 to see Hatfield and the north. if i didnt, id always be thinking 'what if?' |
5000 years from now, Robert Fripp will have been thawed from a cryogenic freeze before his head is installed in a guitar-playing exoskeleton:
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He will reform King Crimson, this time with the disembodied voice of Jon Anderson (who will exist as something like Zordon from the Power Rangers):
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Since Tony Levin will be long gone (having choked to death on his moustache), Fripp will seek out an alien race that has long, wooden flanges in place of fingers, and give the baldest one among them a bass and amp rig:
He will then seek out one of the only drummers left in the world, Nick Mason. But Fripp will be unable to convince Mason to give up his newfound life as a Pod Racer:
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Jon, who is ever the optimist, will tell Fripp to "see things through the eyes of a child." Fripp will unforunately take him literally at first. Finally understanding Jon, Fripp will assemble a drummer out of Erector Sets and Elmers Glue, and name it Bruford Mark II:
Next, the team must seek out Peter Sinfield, who, rumor has it, has cut himself off from the rest of the world, living as a hermit due to his shame of having anything to do with Love Beach:
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Finally, Fripp and his team will use their combined skills to locate and reanimate the remains of Steve Howe, which will look probably just like this:
King Crimson will play for seven months, at which point Fripp will disband the group.
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 10:02 |
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 11:24 |
Well Dr Who would have to take a break from saving the universe to come progging with me. There's quite a few gigs...!!
Numerous Genesis gigs, probably one of teir early shows at Friars, Aylesbury for the sheer nostalgic value. Any gig on the SEBTP and Lamb tours, not to mention the gig/s where the Seconds Out album was recorded - my fave Genesis era and line up, and I expect the opening nights of the Duke tour!! 
Also, I would love to have seen Hawkwind doing Space Ritual, VDGG on the 'Godbluff' tour and Renaissance at Carnegie Hall.
Pink Floyd on the Animals and Wall tours!!
Rush on the Moving Pictures Tour, at one of their Hammersmith Odeon shows in London.. 
Yes, Crimson you name it... 
One can but dream..
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 17:29 |
Blacksword wrote:
Well Dr Who would have to take a break from saving the universe to come progging with me. There's quite a few gigs...!!
Numerous Genesis gigs, probably one of teir early shows at Friars, Aylesbury for the sheer nostalgic value. Any gig on the SEBTP and Lamb tours, not to mention the gig/s where the Seconds Out album was recorded - my fave Genesis era and line up, and I expect the opening nights of the Duke tour!!
Also, I would love to have seen Hawkwind doing Space Ritual, VDGG on the 'Godbluff' tour and Renaissance at Carnegie Hall.
Pink Floyd on the Animals and Wall tours!!
Rush on the Moving Pictures Tour, at one of their Hammersmith Odeon shows in London..
Yes, Crimson you name it...
One can but dream..
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I agree with all of these, except I would add: Pink Floyd - early Syd Barrett gigs The Soft Machine - early 70s Tangerine Dream - Phaedra King Crimson - Lark's Tongues in Aspic and many many more.......
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 02:54 |
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I would like him to give me the chance to see Amon Duul 2 performing Yeti,Secret Oyster,Mahavishnu Orchestra,King Crimson at Concertgebouw 1973,Kebneikase,Algarnas Tradgard and Guru Guru+so many tours and concerts!
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I was born in the land of Mahavishnu,not so far from Kobaia.I'm looking for the world
of searchers with the help from
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ten years after
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 04:45 |
My first destination from a musical perspective would be Woodstock but there was not much prog there so it doesn't qualify for this question.
There was plenty of prog at the Isle of Wight in 1970 - Supertramp, The Who, Procol Harum, Fairfield Parlour, ELP, Family, Moody Blues, Jethro Tull
There were a few other decent acts there too so I would ask the good doctor to take me there. I suspect William Hartnell wouldn't be too impressed though.
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J-Man
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 15:21 |
The Doctor wrote:
Now this rocks as a question, combining two of my loves...Prog and the Doctor.
But...screw prog...I'd have him take me far into the future. But if he would only take me back into progland, I'd have him take me to an early Genesis concert...very early, before Phillips left, where they were still playing some songs that were never released. That'd be cool. |
Yes, indeed that would be very cool. I just would get a little disappointed if I traveled back in time without seeing the Lamb from Genesis (yes, the whole thing).
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Posted: March 06 2009 at 00:07 |
73, to see Zappa's band, in a heartbeat. In my opinion its the peak of his live career.  Amazing stuff. Try out You Can't do That on Stage Anymore Vol. 2 if you haven't already, no Jean-Luc Ponty but plenty of Napoleon Murphy Brock to make up for that 
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Posted: March 06 2009 at 01:03 |
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I'll go one better than all of you.
I'd just steal his wallet, leave him where I found him and with what money he hopefully had in his wallet, buy CDs for my own enjoyment:P
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ten years after
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Posted: March 06 2009 at 19:56 |
progrocker2244 wrote:
I just would get a little disappointed if I traveled back in time without seeing the Lamb from Genesis (yes, the whole thing).
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IMO the Lamb is the best studio album of all time.
I saw it presented live in 1975 and was rather disappointed. I had seen Genesis on numerous occasions prior to that and, like most people found their live act quite brilliant. The Lamb did not work so well on stage however. The complexity of the concepts didn't translate visually and Gabriel overdid the costume thing with too many changes and too much running around the stage. His vocal suffered a bit as a result (i think it the recent box set he actually re-sang some bits). This could have been just the concert i saw of course but i have read similar opinions from other sources.
The Genesis performance at the Reading Festival in 1972 would be a good one to go back to (especially as Curved Air played a little later on).
Better still, and later that same year, was the concert at The Oval. This contained not only a brilliant performance by Genesis but also Focus, ELP and Wishbone Ash (plus an improvised jam by Jan Akkerman and Jack Bruce)
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Posted: May 03 2009 at 14:48 |
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Hyde Park 1969, the first mass exposure to "progressive rock", when King Crimson supported The Rolling Stones.
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"The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time."
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Posted: May 03 2009 at 17:46 |
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Posted: May 03 2009 at 19:23 |
Epignosis wrote:
Froth wrote:
The Doctor wrote:
Now this rocks as a question, combining two of my loves...Prog and the Doctor.
But...screw prog...I'd have him take me far into the future. |
yeah, as a lover of what i view as progressive music, i'd go 50 or 100 years in the future... id love to hear what rock music sounds like then, or if it even if it exists. then i might go 5000 years or something and see what music sounds like. that would be incredible.
then id probably go to the rainbow in 1975 to see Hatfield and the north. if i didnt, id always be thinking 'what if?' |
5000 years from now, Robert Fripp will have been thawed from a cryogenic freeze before his head is installed in a guitar-playing exoskeleton:
Plus
He will reform King Crimson, this time with the disembodied voice of Jon Anderson (who will exist as something like Zordon from the Power Rangers):
Plus
Since Tony Levin will be long gone (having choked to death on his moustache), Fripp will seek out an alien race that has long, wooden flanges in place of fingers, and give the baldest one among them a bass and amp rig:
He will then seek out one of the only drummers left in the world, Nick Mason. But Fripp will be unable to convince Mason to give up his newfound life as a Pod Racer:
Plus
Jon, who is ever the optimist, will tell Fripp to "see things through the eyes of a child." Fripp will unforunately take him literally at first. Finally understanding Jon, Fripp will assemble a drummer out of Erector Sets and Elmers Glue, and name it Bruford Mark II:
Next, the team must seek out Peter Sinfield, who, rumor has it, has cut himself off from the rest of the world, living as a hermit due to his shame of having anything to do with Love Beach:
Plus
Finally, Fripp and his team will use their combined skills to locate and reanimate the remains of Steve Howe, which will look probably just like this:
King Crimson will play for seven months, at which point Fripp will disband the group.
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Possibly the best post ever
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moshkito
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Posted: May 04 2009 at 15:00 |
Hawkwise wrote:
Easy Livin wrote:
[QUOTE=Hawkwise]Where in Prog Land would you get him to take you ?
I would go back to 1972 and the Greyhound Croydon and Amon Duul 2 . |
[quote] ... snip My Older Brother Terry did go to that Amon Duul2 gig in Croydon and still to this day he says it was one of the best Gigs with one the best Vibes he ever went to, Now this is coming from someone (much like my self) who was lucky to see all the Greats of Prog at one time or other over the years ... |
I think there is only one concert I really want to see ... maybe 2 ... 3 if I get really lucky!
1. I would love to be able to see MIke Oldfield in the EXPOSED concert ... which is by far one of the best orchestrated events ever recorded ... and it's a shame that many folks here are too smug on their keiths and organs to accept other musics that are also progressive.
2. Vangelis. I don't care if he has to bring 15 of him or not ... I know that Irene Pappas won't make it ... and Jon Anderson is not necessary (don't want the new age audience please!) ...
3. Klaus Schulze. Unffortunately he never will make it to America and I'm not sure his manager even cares to come here unless someone floats a million bux in front of his ... sad too ... this is the kind of stuff that new age'rs never heard because of advertising and they don't know what they are missing!
Lastly ... AD2 ... I would love to see a concert of this band around the time of Wolf City ... and include Mozambique and the show needs to end with Apocalyptic Bore ... this because Mozambique would help the band understand and KNOW how important they were to some ... and Mozambique got its independence a couple of months later too!!!! ... and then Apocalyptic Bore with an extended duet at the end ... to tell Scorpions where to stick it!
There are many clips of AD2 out there, and some of them are so sad ... that they hurt, even though these are done more recently ... but the quality is not there. One could suppose/hope that a band would have enough "within" to realize that and do more to ensure they can do a good version of what they did before ... and do it justice ... but I think the sails are tired, the sails are ripped ... and they are not clean ... that time has taken a hard toll on it. Specially with today's equipment and Midi keyboards and sampling all around, there is a lot less to worry about and not redo ... that can be done ... we don't have to sound the same and antiseptic btw ...
When Gong toured in 95 and 97 here in the West Coast, the 95 show was nice ... but they were really missing the keyboard edge ... and it took away from their ethereal glow ... and I felt that I had to create that for myself to enjoy the show ... when they toured 2 years later they had Pierre with them and his bottom end made it sound stronger and the lack of a strong keyboard sound was not as tough ... and they had a magnificent rock sound and bottom end during that show ... but in the end, when looking at it from a bit of a distance, all of a sudden the band looked "smaller" ... and did not mean as much ... still lovely people and stuff ... but ... not enough ... and my worry is that stuff like this needs to shine in presentation or it's not gonna go anywhere except to the grave.
Any other show? ... Only one ... I wanna lock up Egberto Gismonti with Edgar Froese and David Darling ... and record it a la Manfred Eicher ... you don't even have to release it since these proggies here would not appreciate it as much as I will! (ECM) !!! I'll foot this bill!
Edited by moshkito - May 04 2009 at 15:26
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Posted: May 04 2009 at 16:00 |
Since Dr. Who is a fictional character I`ve always wondered what that Disaster Area gig in Douglas Adams` The Restaurant At The End Of The Universe would have been like. Louder than Spinal Tap 
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