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npjnpj
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 02:26 |
I'm bilingual. Can I vote?
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 08:06 |
English is an easy language to understand, compared to some other languages (I did French for 6 years in high school, followed an extra course, and where I live I hear French almost every day, and still it's difficult to master it well.).
I understand the biggest part of what I hear, and from what I don't understand, the biggest part is because of people not articulating well, but I still learn new words through prog and other music.
I voted "everything" because that comes closest. It's seldom that I need a lyric sheet.
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omri
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 10:41 |
I voted for number 5 - need help only when lyrics are complicated.
Usually I don't use a lyric sheet but I hate it when it's missing cause sometimes I don't get the exact word and then I take out the sheet and get the idea. For example I thought that the word in JT's "Wind up" were :
"Your'e a poorer man than me cause you lick the boots of death for not a thing" but when I checked it I found out that the ending is "born out of fear".
The meaning did not change dramatucaly but still .....
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 11:14 |
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Anaon
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 12:22 |
I voted "I need lyric sheet". It depends on the singer, sometimes I understand most of the lyrics but I like listen to music with the booklet to read the lyrics ;)
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 12:34 |
Well I lived in England for 1 year and a half, without that short-living I would be needing studying English in school. I mean, I do have English in school, but talking in english in a country for 1 year and a half, makes it so easy.
Obviously, for lyrics and some other kind of stuff, I sometimes PREFER lyric sheet, and in TV case, subtitles but in english. I suppose this is 'Other'
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Rocktopus
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 12:42 |
Fifth option, I guess.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Philéas
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Posted: February 23 2009 at 18:22 |
I generally understand everything, but sometimes it can be hard to hear what a singer is singing because of the way he/she sings it, or because of production issues. But this can be the case with Swedish (my mother tongue) lyrics too.
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CPicard
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Posted: February 24 2009 at 12:37 |
Lyrics sheet and dictionnary, especially if I'm listening to Yes (Anderson, what do your lyrics mean???) or Napalm Death and Carcass (not only the vocals, but above all for the vocabulary!)
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The Miracle
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Location: hell
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Posted: February 24 2009 at 14:28 |
I started to understand more as my english got better - after 7 years I understand almost everything but I never pay attention so it really doesn't matter.
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Bj-1
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Joined: June 04 2005
Location: No(r)Way
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Posted: February 24 2009 at 16:35 |
I focus more on the melodies myself, although I do understand very much english!
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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markosherrera
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Posted: February 25 2009 at 22:53 |
Lyrics and sometimes a dictionary ,for some words
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Hi progmaniacs of all the world
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Noak
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Posted: February 26 2009 at 13:36 |
I have never had any trouble understanding English. I have looked up certain words every now and then mostly of curiosity, like Schizoid and Equilibrium.
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Bern
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Posted: February 26 2009 at 17:18 |
I chose option number 5. I mostly understand everything but, every now and then, a word, play on word, reference, mispronunciation, etc pops in and I don't get it.
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RIP in bossa nova heaven.
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: February 27 2009 at 10:28 |
Raff wrote:
First option for me. I only have trouble understanding lyrics in English when the singer has a distinctive vocal style (e.g. death growls) which makes understanding hard even for native speakers.
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Satan vocals . A lot of bands` lyrics are almost impossible to understand particularily bands whos mother tongue is not English.
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Etneciv
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 15:55 |
Viva Mexico!!!!!!
and Russia too if you want
I need lyric sheet only, and once again... Viva Mexico
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Imagination is the key to my lyrics, the rest is painted with a little science fiction - Jimi Hendrix
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NotAProghead
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 16:23 |
^ Viva Mexico and all other countries too!
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Trial and Error
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Location: Austria
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 21:11 |
The T wrote:
Of course, I'm not including black or death metal albums here... If anyone can understand more than 1.76 % of what Cannibal Corpse is singing about, please... I'll take whatever you're taking... |
While not true for Cannibal Corpse, I do understand about 50% of the English lyrics in the more famous black metal bands. You get used to it. The more mid range clearer growls like melodeath are exactly the same as most singers with a slightly more difficult accent. Anyway, I don't usually listen to lyrics, but if I do, I get most of it. A lot is depending on the mix, though, and the problems that may arise are because of my inability to hear the word, not to understand what it means. I have a similar stance in German, although I will hear lyrics even if I don't listen, unlike in English where it stays an instrument for the duration of listening unless I want it to be something else.
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el böthy
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Joined: April 27 2005
Location: Argentina
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 19:14 |
Pretty much everything. I mean, of course, there are singers like Cedric Bixler which are sometimes borderline understandable (I doubt a native english speaker can "get it" all), but other than that, yes... everything
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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tszirmay
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Posted: March 06 2009 at 15:49 |
Speaking english when your mother tongue is some other idiom is more commonplace today than before (merci, Internet, gracias) . I am amazed that so many non-english PA members use Shakespeare's tongue so eloquently. Mind you there are a few who need a decoder but vive la difference!
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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