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progrules ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 14 2007 Location: Netherlands Status: Offline Points: 958 |
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Yeah, it's obvious and therefor PA once invented the rules about ratings. Such ratings without review only count for 1 where a rating with review of a reliable guy like you counts for 10. Good thinking by PA !
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A day without prog is a wasted day
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ExittheLemming ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2007 Location: Penal Colony Status: Offline Points: 11420 |
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http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=212669
Now this I like, an allegorical review so cryptic that prog is hoisted by its own petard ? |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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That's the point, he has selected the best albums of:
And rated them low because they are a direct competition to Pink Floyd But this is obvious ![]() ![]() ![]()
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debrewguy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3596 |
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I agree with Ivan,we can't Pink Floyd fanboys rating Pink Floyd albums at 5. And hell, he missed more than half of their output.
Is it possible that this person has been visiting PA for a while, finally joined up, and plunged right in once he felt comfortable ? After all, not one group has its' entire discography rated, at five or one. Now I might just be talking like that because I've seen some knowledgeable people here rate every one of their idols albums at 4 or 5. And I've had a spell recently where it seemed like every album mi reviewed was one that I seemed intent on cutting its' heralded status with some here. So maybe, maybe , this is just an overreaction based on ? |
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Normally the albums are posted because some members have access to them by promotional copies.
But please, we are starting again the Octavarium circus (Remember many idiots rating a laBrie album as if it was Octavarium?), a rating without review of an album not released is impossible to accept.
When I receive a promotional copy, the first thing io do is explain why I'm doing the review and how i got the copy, but this guy called DTman, most surely haven't heard it, because no artist will send a promotional copy to a person unable to write a review, I'm almost sure he's a fanboy who saw Dream Theater and gave 5 stars.
I would delete it.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - March 15 2009 at 21:49 |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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See the FAQ's thread in the rules section for details.
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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^you can ask a Admin for that, via PM or some kind of thread, though better the first option.
Though, I recomend you to copy the review you want to edit, tell a Admin to delete that review, and then you post the review again modified. |
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crimson87 ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 1818 |
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I have a question , if I want to edit a review of mine or change the rating within that review... is there a way to do that.
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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It would be dishonest from me to rate a Genesis Pop albums high because I believe they are all terrible.
If this was a POP forum I would rate lots of POP albums high but still POP Genesis low because I believe it's boring POP.
That's my honest opinion.
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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This thread is for discussing reviews content. Thank you.
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Lucent ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 18 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 259 |
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Make it so collaberators/moderators have no priority over regular users in review.
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Alberto Muñoz ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 26 2006 Location: Mexico Status: Offline Points: 3577 |
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Hey Cacho , at your age i also discover Come Taste The Band, Great Record!
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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As a general rule, I try to review non-classic albums(but yes classic bands), so the 5 stars are not for "obvious" masterpieces. There have been (and will be) some rare exceptions, however ![]() Come Taste the band, in my opinion(and everybody's opinion ![]() |
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debrewguy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3596 |
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I know. It's just that I'm a recovering over the topper ![]() ![]() |
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Epignosis ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: December 30 2007 Location: Raeford, NC Status: Offline Points: 32553 |
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As a general rule, I will never rate something in Prog-Related 5 stars.
There have been (and will be) some rare exceptions, however. Led Zeppelin's IV, in my opinion, is largely progressive rock; to boot, it has historical value, I like it a lot and it's overall a phenomenal album. So IV got V. I can live with that. |
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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^yeah I know, sorry about it(even if I wasn't offending you *thinks*).
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debrewguy ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 30 2007 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 3596 |
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Cacho, I think "stupid" is a bit much. I agree with you. We can't expect others to rate albums based on their prog content. There exists no formula to determine the relative progressiveness of an album.
And the site's admin have accepted that the ratings in general (i.e. in most cases) will be based on the person's opinion of the album, not the supposed prog aspect. So there is no need, nor reason to harp on this subject. The reality of things trumps all objections. If an album is here, tell us what you feel about it. |
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"Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case.
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The Quiet One ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: January 16 2008 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 15745 |
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I'm sure there's some of 4 or 3 star ratings of Prog Reviewers from albums like Duke, And Then There Were Three, Bananas by Deep Purple, Rapture of the Deep by Deep Purple, A Hard Day's Night by Beatles, My Generation by The Who, etc, etc. To be completely sincere, I think if you rate a album like Machine Head or IV(Zep) low just because the fact they aren't ''Prog'' then I think you're being quite stupid I'm afraid, please no offense, the site allowed these bands, Prog-Related ones as well as Prog ones with Pop or Rock albums to review them and rate them as we pleasure. The "Prog Stars System", should be edited, or clarified for Prog-Related albums, etc, etc. Because if that's the case(your case), then almost all Prog-Related albums and Proto-Prog albums should have a average of 3 stars going down... BTW: sorry John, just my last post about this discussion ![]() |
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CCVP ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 15 2007 Location: Vitória, Brasil Status: Offline Points: 7971 |
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that guy is obviously spamming reviews, but i don't think that's something to be exactly desperate about. It is obvious that many people spam reviews of their favorite/most hated album all over the place. That is probably why there isn't a single album in the top 20 prog metal with more than 4.35 (except the Conception's album, which have only some few reviews) despite having more 5 stars ratings than Selling England by the Pound or Close to the Edge: people spam 1 star ratings to degrade them on purpose.
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Queen By-Tor ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 13 2006 Location: Xanadu Status: Offline Points: 16111 |
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Nothing wrong with the review... it's his own opinion.
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