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Finnforest
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 06:31 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
That's one I have not yet heard Damo, but I hope to someday. I'm sure I will! I'll get back to you later about your PM questions.....
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: February 19 2009 at 02:14 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Interestingly I always feel Gli Alluminogeni was a good rock band...outside RPI...IMHO.
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Finnforest
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It really does have a heavy edge Paul I agree, they got a young guitarist in there to bring that edge to the older keyboard dudes. A good mix.
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Nightfly
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I'd give it a play asap if i was you. It's explosive and dynamic symphonic prog, veering into prog metal territory occasionally. Heavier than I was expecting actually.
Thanks James, really glad I got this one.
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: February 18 2009 at 02:05 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Japanese paper sleeve CDs are good, I'm proud!
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 18:02 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
New Japan mini list from Doug Larson....some old friends are back in the best format possible!
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: February 17 2009 at 04:48 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Thanks Finny, memo, and all Italian freaks!
I'm always surprised and amazed at the extensiveness and spaciousness of RPI. Always enjoy RPI world! |
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memowakeman
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 17:42 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Nice work Damo
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 17:40 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
And this one from the D man
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Nostos Ubi Maior Italian Symphonic Prog Review by DamoXt7942
FULL OF GROWIN' PASSION!
In this debut album Nostos they might pack all of things they wanted to do. There are many kinds of songs...one with full of heavy riff and frequently altered rhythm, and another with straight rock sound and catchy melody. However, all songs are same at the point that Mario's voice should have strong passion. Well I want to emphasize this point to all listeners! I suggest we can understand their identity and potential with listening to the first track Vendetta . In this song are almost all of their music styles. Exactly, a lump of heavyness, strict rhythm, terrific melody and hot voice. This about-ten-minute song know all of their Italian spirits. They can have a gentle style in the song Terra Madre or play a melancholic keyboard-play in Livia ...yes, they should have lots of faces. The longest track in this work Nostos has many short pieces with various waves. Sadly there's not an exploded part like Close To The Edge, so my first hearin' I felt the song so long and slightly flat. But listening again and again, I can always feel their large possibility in future. Of course, they can play well not only their original songs but also a covered track of IL BALLETTO DI BRONZO ( La tua casa comoda ). Ubi Maior is now growing, I can realize. Their next work will be absolutely climb up the mountain named Italian progressive rock! |
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Finnforest
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Finally have a moment to get these up here............
Icarus St.-Tropez Italian Symphonic Prog Review by
tszirmay
— First review of this album —
ST-Tropez was shaped out of the disintegration of Celeste, an influential Italian group that published
the tremendous “Principe di un Giorno”, a couple of weaker follow ups and then swiftly disbanded.
Keyboardist and multi-instrumentalist Ciro Perrino brought along his “celestial” mates Giorgio Battaglia
on bass and Bat DiMasi on drums, adding newcomer Alex Magazzino on guitar (a noticeable Steve
Hillage fan) and a female “space” vocalist Lady Mantide, plus a few others for both studio and live gigs.
But contrary to the rustic tendencies of Celeste, the St-Tropez project was resolutely interested in
developing space prog , more in tone with latter Soft Machine, Here & Now , Nucleus, the Canterbury
scene but mostly trilogy-era Gong. Noccioline, caramelle, gelati” is an 11 minute space prog discovery,
sibilant synths bubbling, escorted by some luxuriant percussion (marimba) in a languid sonic
environment, sort of tropically upbeat and slowly growing in volume and stature, not the usual cold and
gloomy space cruise. Space whisperer Lady Mantide does some fine Gilly Smyth/Miquette Giraudy
vocal impersonations, chanting with unabridged intensity. Half way, the drums and bass enter with
some propulsive pomp and ceremony, the voices getting weirder and wilder, egging on the stellar
Hillage-inspired guitar solo, loaded with effect and up and down scaling, while Perrino adds some Tim
Blake influenced synth noodlings, trilling incessantly with restrained doggedness. “Segnale Limpido”
segues nicely into another voice /synth vortex, adding some male vocals as well, Magazzino doing
another distorted guitar exercise, loaded with sustained folly, effect-laden inflections and loads of pedal
board footwork. The drum patterns seem to fall madly into sequence as the arrangement takes a
different course, synth codes pinging and ponging wildly, veering into almost Kraftwerk shades. The
ambient and rhythmic electronics are certainly bewildering, morphing into controlled chaos, which by
definition “space-rock” should be! “Il Laghetto del Cigna” is a tremendous poppier piece, with an
outright manic female vocal, full of jaw-dropping “rising fish” guitar discoveries and a resolute chorus
that drills mercilessly. The gleaming “Nella Cascata” blooms effortlessly with a solid groove-inspired
bass riff, chunky drums bashing along solidly, with a surprisingly normal guitar sound, paralleled by
some fascinating synth work, carving out a bright theme that is easy to grasp and enjoy, totally
progressing beyond the previous material into an another realm and ending in a massive space wash of
noise, as the birds warble in the background! Excellence! “Bollito Misto” slings into a marimba-driven
premise where complex drums add to the salsa, a highly upbeat and multi-hued, almost hippyish, with
a Canterbury meets West Coast hint, a frankly extremely satisfying affair with twanging guitars with
hardly any synths at all. Very interesting. “Icarus” is an 8 minute interplanetary excursion fueled by
Lady Mantide’s gentle chanting, Perrino adding tender male vocals, the colossal instrumental break is
now grandiose, bombastic in an almost symphonic overtone, again providing surprise and
enchantment , sounding at times closer to Celeste than anything else, a voice/guitar hysterical outro
crowns this piece magnificently. The longest track follows “Re del Deserto”, a dozen minutes of sheer
aural impunity, evolving into serious space environments, booming synths, bubbling bass buoys, bold
assertive drumming and some grooving and eternal head music. The cyclical repetition is hypnotic to
the ultimate degree and all I can say is give me more! “Verdure Saltate” is definitely more attuned to
the Soft Machine sound, what with that insistent fuzzy organ reverberation along with nuclear drums
and insistent riffing. The synth solo adds only a slight electro feel on top, melding with loads of
percussive work, some cool occasional rhythmic and lead guitar stretches. “Luna in Vergine” leans
more into the Hatfield/National Health groove, lots of Northettes-style singing, with some nervy
drumming, resilient bass, sweeping moods eloquently highlighted by the savvy keyboard work, hinting
at the jazzier side of the prog spectrum. An effortless guitar flight includes even more suspense and
shoots outright for the stars, a simply amazing track. This legendary album bows out with a soothing
synthesized escape “Il Lato Sconosciuto”, severely in the classic Hillage mold, swooping axe tremors,
broad swaths of six-stringed adventure, popping bass and sudden shift into another Hatfield Health
romp. Truly extraordinary material and uncompromising attitude.
For those who haven’t got enough of a classic Gong fix, Canterbury maniacs, rabid space-rock
adventurers, electronica fans and those who enjoy owning the one shot weird wonders, this is for you.
Not a masterpiece but a definite oddball jewel in the crown. 4 nude Riviera babes.
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memowakeman
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 17:32 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
wow thanks for posting it, i missed that review the day it was written.
I looooove that album and reading that review makes me happy.
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 12:45 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Paul--congrats, good choice
Damo, Thomas--good reviews dudes!!
Raff--thanks for the help Raff. You did what you could. The last 3 bands I've advocated all belong here, and all appear headed to oblivion. I'm outta the suggest business....I'm the kiss of death.
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Alberto Muñoz
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 12:42 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
I have that too, ihaven't listen, how do you describe the album ?
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Nightfly
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 12:37 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This album has just arrived today. I'm playing it now and it sounds great!
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DamoXt7942
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 09:09 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Been a long time to come here...hello, all Italian prog freaks.
Ubi Maior's Nostos I've heard again and again...good work! |
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Raff
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Posted: February 16 2009 at 07:48 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Great review, Jim! Unfortunately, it seems A2R will have to wait in limbo for heaven knows how long.... The HP team gave them the thumbs down, and so did the JR/F team and the Post-Rock team. I was in favour of adding them, but can't impose them on my team. Oh, well, I suppose there's nothing to be done until this state of affairs continues
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tszirmay
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Thanks to Micky and his usual diligence , St-Tropez' Icarus is in the PA books ! Hallelujah! It was about time! Hope you guys like the review !
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Finnforest
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Posted: February 15 2009 at 12:33 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
A fine instrumental prog-rock band added to my Blog today. Think many of the fusion fans and hard instrumental prog fans will love this. Give 'em a listen at their myspace.
Soaring, spirited songs color a great debut Often very technically gifted shred and fusion outfits can leave me pretty bored and uninspired so it was refreshing to come across the Rome based trio called A II R (as in A2R, a play on their first names.) Contrary to what you might expect when you encounter an instrumental trio of the technically proficient variety, A2R play a fluid and engaging progressive rock that should be a lesson to many shred bands that what you play is far more important than how many notes you can cram into a song. The 8 tracks on their debut CD release are crisp and concise songs that will grab and hold any fan of “Moving Pictures” era Rush, Satriani, Karcius, or Ohm. They allow the hooks and melodies of their songs to appeal to the listener and simply use their playing skills to up the ante, as opposed to making every a track just a showcase for chops. These are songs you want to hear again because they’re good songs and not simply shred-fests. Guitarist Andrea Pietrosanti, drummer Roberto Pirami, and bassist Roberto Fasciani met years ago in music school. Pirami and Fasciani began session work and also collaborated on a project called Hyrda, while Pietrosanti worked on projects with numerous bands and vocalists in Rome. They also work as music teachers. In 2006 they formed A2R and quickly realized they shared a special and unique musical connection. The songs were born fast and furious from improvisation which makes it all the more impressive how listener-friendly the final product turned out. By keeping the songs in the 4-7 minute range A2R has given each song enough time to communicate the theme (yes, there are themes hinted through the titles) while keeping them focused, never allowing a listener to get “bored” from the shred-fests that some bands exploit. Regarding those themes Roberto told me they are present in their minds but of course the listener’s interpretations can be very different with instrumental music especially. These songs are intricate, varied in mood, feature challenging playing, but temper that playing by keeping it under control and spicing it with light psych, acoustic, metal, and fusion influences. That said this is clearly not a jazz, metal, or psych album but a rock album, a delicious, unapologetic instrumental progressive rock that soars. There are no weak moments to be found. The tracks are chock full of one interesting section after another, each building up in excitement, sliding to another section and then sometimes returning back. Vocals are absolutely not needed in music that is this much fun and in fact they would be in the way. This album has far too many good moments and details to attempt a track by track rundown but I want to talk a bit about the playing styles. Andrea is simply an unbelievable guitarist who covers every conceivable style with seeming ease. He possesses great instinct for how to approach the leads on each track, knowing how aggressive to take things, when to fall back a bit. His solos are little works of beauty, just full of emotion, from the juiciest squeals to the driest runs, he can be disciplined as hell or cut loose for fun at a moments notice. Truly a virtuoso but not a stuffy one. Roberto F shares many of those same attributes on the bass. He is not defined by the rhythm section anchor role in the least, but rather a co-lead instrumentalist to the guitar, playing nuanced leads in a conversational way. He often plays in higher registers giving it more of the lead feel before falling back when necessary to support Andrea. The tradeoffs and teamwork between the two on “Reflection” is a prime example of how the songs are strengthened by the approach. Roberto P is the secret weapon of the trio. Often when you have highly talented drummers the tracks can just become cluttered in an endless sea of one explosive fill after another. While Roberto occasionally allows himself to go nuts on a fill he doesn’t live there…instead choosing a more selfless style of play by simply creating a grounded, stable backbone for the axes to paint around. This is wonderful because it keeps the songs from ever getting annoyingly “busy” and creates so much more space…and it also means that when he does turn up the flash like in the mid section of “Lifetime” it elevates the track significantly. Just another example of how these guys are working together at crafting effective songs rather than showing off. My favorite songs were the lovely “Lost in You” with its inventive drumming and lilting mood as well as a very cool ending bass lead by Roberto. There are “Aum” and “Lifetime” which most remind me of Moving Pics-Grace era Rush sans keyboards of course, and the calculated feel and tension in “Prism.” “Aum” rocks particularly hard with chunky Tom Sawyer-ish chords and heavy riffs leading to explosive soloing. Very thumpin’ stuff! I’d love to see this live!!—and the band informs me that they mix it up quite a bit live so you can expect the songs to have some different twists from the studio version. The last track “Sunrise” is yet another gem with the acoustic guitar bringing just a touch of a Latin feel aboard that holds its own against the strong bass presence. The band looks forward to recording again and playing live but explained to me how difficult finding gigs can be in Rome, something I’ve heard from others as well. How sad that a place with so much quality original music has not the venues when it seems every city is full of cover bands preaching to the converted. As music fans it is our responsibility to pay more attention to newer original bands and less to cover band entertainment. It should be about the music, not about drinks and dancing to covers. Or at least a more equal mix of the two in the venue count. I know, I’m dreaming here. I urge fans reading this to support unsigned independent bands I’ve written about lately like A2R, Tea Club, and David’s Lodgers by going to their sites and getting a CD. For the price of a couple beers at the clubs you can help keep the spirit of independent music alive. For an instrumental rock experience truly full of colors and great songs, A2R is a band you need to check out. I love it. Go immediately to this link for song samples and purchase their CD which boasts good sound quality: A2R band site - click here [Jim Russell, 14 February 2009] |
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Finnforest
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And to Filipe
Io Sono Nato Libero Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso Italian Symphonic Prog Review by fil karada
I didn't like this album at first but I think that in time its very rewarding and only some parts of
it still hold a challenge to me.
Canto Nomade Per Un Prigioniero Politico - This track is by far the longest and with most ideas in the album, sometimes too many. It begins very softly with a very good piano-playing. After a while the drums start to play and the song gets much more dynamic. This part of the song features some very good vocals, which I love of course, almost accompanied by the piano. The song goes soft again with very atmospheric parts until +- the middle of the song and then begins a jazzy part, and a very nice one I must say. For me the song is excellent until +- 9 minutes but then we have many minutes of rythmic parts or acoustic parts and it becomes a little annoying (one of the acoustic parts will be later developed in Dopo...). Fortunetly we are saved by the bell (well a bit too late) and the band plays again the same jazzy part (also because this jazzy part has a very interesting riff played by the keyboards). This song also features a little awkward ending. Would be 8,5 or even 9 in 10 if the song wouldnt have so many boring parts. 8/10 Non Mi Rompete - Very beautiful acoustic track. The vocals and both the acoustic guitars are excellent here. The verse is perfect but I dont like that much the chorus, especialy the non-spoken vocals, but its not bad. The song also features a keyboard solo with a sound that resembles whistling. Theres not much to be said about this song because it has a simple structure and is very easy to like but I can't really write on paper the quality of this one, check for yourself. 9/10 La Città Sottile - A more relaxing music. Features some nice piano and of course vocals. Most of the melody here is made by the piano, vocals and open hi-hat. The music never changes much, it always stays within the same tempo, mood and scale. The song has a short and smooth guitar solo (I always wished Banco would use the guitar more heavily, with more power and feeling). There is a short organ-driven part, the music stops and the vocalist describes la cittá sotile the city of glass (although I dont understand what he says), then we go back to the dominant melody of the song. This one was the last track that I got to like but its really a very simple and soft one. 8,5/10 Dopo...Niente E' Più Lo Stesso - For me this one is the best track of the album. From what I've heard its about a soldier that returns from the battle of STalingrad and arrives to his homeland, and I think the feelings reflect well on the song. Starts with only the keyboards and drums but soon there is a musical explosion the vocals begin and the music gets faster and heavier. We have a softer part vocal and keyboard dominated. And then we have my favourite part, the main verse: theres such emotion on the vocals, the drums are tireless and the keyboard are also fantastic, the stops add such emotion and suspense to the music and we even have some sort of guitar solo (as ever I wish the guitar would be more powerful).The song goes soft again and theres a description and the main verse is repeated. This song also has a rythmic part with excellent drums and the song ends with the initial keyboard melody. 9,5/10 Traccia II - This is an instrumental part where the band shows a more classical side. Very good piano, majestic keyboards and there are so many layers of sound that the music gets very rich and fantastic. Its a short but great song, perhaps it sould be longer and developed some more ideas but its still good. 8,5/10 My rating: 8,7/10 = 4,4/5 rounded up do five stars (can't really give less than 5 stars to this album) |
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Finnforest
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Clappies time for another review posting IT reviews.....Cheers Adam from the ISP loons!!
Apoteosi Apoteosi Italian Symphonic Prog Review by AdamHearst This is an absolute masterpiece of Italian Progressive Rock!The prefatory instrumental piece 'Embrion' heralds in this incomparable treasure of an album: a baroque organ builds a nocturnal mood: a starry summer night sky... slow gliding synthesizers wash through the vista like wispy clouds obscuring a full moon. A darkly romantic serenading piano follows, which then erupts into an aggressive Jazz-like attack with an excellent rhythm and bassline underneath wondrous Moog leads from the masterful Massimo Idà. This short two minute piece is a masterpiece unto itself and contains more quality and emotion than some band's entire albums. And the best is still to come... Mere words can not describe the magnificence of the 'Prima Realta, Frammentaria Rivolta' suite. In my opinion this is one of the greatest pieces of music ever recorded. The first movement of this epic is an aggressive tour de force with myriad layers of synthesizer atmospherics and technically impeccable and emotive piano playing. The rhythm section is one of the best in all of the Rock Progressivo Italiano scene. The guitarist is good but often overshadowed by the virtuoso keyboardist most of the time. The suite takes a dramatic shift into a soft mellow Pop-like arrangement which sets the stage for the singer's first appearance: delicate and haunting female vocals submerge the listener in a fantastical world of unparalleled emotion and languid beauty. Soft gentle cascades of flute and melancholic voice coalesce... a rare angelic beauty results. This portion of the opus is evocative of an Italian version of Minnie Riperton's hit 'Loving You'. This might seem like an odd comparison, but it's meant as a sincerely positive comment... just listen to the two songs back to back and see. The song continues through a progression of alternating soft and hard themes; every movement of the suite is of extremely high quality and the atmosphere it weaves is inescapable... you become totally immersed. 'Il Grande Disumana' sustains the magic and contributes the most aggressive segments on the entire album. There is a great change of pace when male vocalist Franco Vinci takes over and wails like a banshee for a couple of verses... at one point he sounds close to Rob Halford of 'Judas Priest' when he hits a few particularly high notes in a very theatrical operatic style. I like this delivery very much, it is a great contrast to the tranquil female vocals.
The drummer also pounds out some very heavy double-bass patterns that remind me of Stained Class era Judas Priest. This is an extremely dynamic album... after the pseudo metal portion it morphs into a 'Selling England By The Pound'-style extended instrumental section with great synth soloing and guitar leads. From beginning to end this album is just perfect: perfectly composed, performed, and recorded. This may just be my very favorite Italian Symphonic Prog album. Always melodic and dripping with emotion, there is never a dull moment.
I highly recommend this to all Symphonic Prog fans, and RPI fans in particular. 5 stars |
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