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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 12:14
My love for Tull has changed over the years -- I appreciate their art much more today than I did 20 years ago. I used to be a die-hard "only the pre-WarChild" stuff is worth posterity. But now my favorites include "The Flying Dutchman" from Stormwatch and "The Pine Marten's Jig" from 'A', which makes me stop what I'm doing to listen every time it plays.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 15:44
I have loved Jethro Tull for a long time. I first heard Aqualung and Thick as a Brick when it was released. The cover was amazing, funny & silly, that was cover art used to full effect.

My favourites are
Stand Up: I've never taken to This Was, but this album has fantastic songs and a real charm.

Aqualung: Title track is amazing as well as the accoustic numbers, a classic album. With this album a totally unique voice had unveiled itself.

Thick as a Brick: What can I say, very English, quirky, poetic, musically engaging, cynical, funny. Popular albums don't sound this idiosyncratic anymore.

Song from the Wood: A newly forged folk tradition. Spritly fresh a nice dash of Paganism. I love it.

Heavy Horses: A more earthy follow up. But again, what an excellent collection of thematically consistent songs. Makes me realise that one on the main things Tull had going for them, on top of their excellent musicianship was engaging, well written, thought provoking songs. 

Stormwatch: Home is a completely beautiful song, the rest of the album is good too.

Broadsword and the Beast: a bit of an end of an era, doesn't really give us anything too new, but good songs.

Crest of a Knave: enter ZZ Top and Dire Straits influence, a good album though. Jump Start is a killer track, cool that Tull is exploring new territory.

Roots to Branches: Moody, evocative album, maybe the most mature album to date.

Christmas Album: This one probably doesn't get on too many peoples top list, but a few years back I started up a thing with Christmas music, this gives me a nice warm feeling & is an excellent ode to Christmas time. Sentimental perhaps but not without insight and a few barbs.

A really impressive catalogue and a wonderful individual voice, great songs, great music, very English, they have enriched my life for sure.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:09
I reckon if I took my fave 5 songs from every remaster, I think 2 or 3 songs from each cd would be bonus tracks, this is assuming the following songs were also included on the remasters to give us even more bonus tracks LOL
 
This was-Blues for the 18th
Aqualung-For later, Life is a long song(remix), Up the pool, Wond'ring again, Dr Bogenbroom, Nursie, Locomotive breath(MU version)
Warchild-Bungle in the jungle(remix)
Heavy horses-Blues instrumental
Broadsword-Motoyeres, Jackalynn(full unplugged version), Crew nights, Commons brawl, The curse, No step, Drive on the young side of life, Lights out
Rock island-Man of principal, Hard liner
Catfish rising-Silver river turning, Truck stop runner, I don't want to be me, Piece of cake,  Rosa on the factory floor
Dotcom-It all trickles down
 
Would be nice if Broadsword was a double cd remaster and some of the drum tracks were remixed to get a nice sound and consistency through the whole 26 songs. Would be nice if the drums were also remixed in Under wraps, Crest and Rock island in the same manner
 
here's some examples of good and bad drums on those remasters
broadsword
good-too many too, seal driver, flying colours
bad-beastie, jackalyn, pussy willow
 
under wraps(none of the drums are really good because they are way too tinny sounding)
potentially good-radio free moscow, nobodys car, paparazzi
bad-heat, lap of luxury, under wraps 1
 
crest
good-the waking edge
bad-raising steam, steel monkey
 
rock island
good-kissing willie
bad-another christmas song 
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:41
I have a theory about the Jethro Tull and here is the theory as is it is:  Jethro Tull was thin at the beginning, much much more interesting the beginning of the middle and much less interesting after that.  That is the theory that I have and is as such that it is.

On a more seriouser note, "A" kind of marked the period after which I got much less interested.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:58
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I have a theory about the Jethro Tull and here is the theory as is it is:  Jethro Tull was thin at the beginning, much much more interesting the beginning of the middle and much less interesting after that.  That is the theory that I have and is as such that it is.

On a more seriouser note, "A" kind of marked the period after which I got much less interested.
 
Is that Anne Elkes theory? Cough Cough lol
I really like 'A' though Tongue
Fylingdale flyer, Uniform, Pine Martin, Protect and Survive, And further on. Great tunes Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2009 at 08:14
For me after A, Tull started putting out merely good but non-essential albums rather than great ones.  Still I have and like both Rock Island and Crest Of A Knave.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2009 at 09:44
^don't you like Catfish Rising?Confused I find it to be in the style of those 2, of course you should know that too. It's my favorite of the 3...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2009 at 17:02
You definatly can't beat early tull. Aqualung and minstral in the gallery have to be up there as all time great albams. Also, thick as a brick, essentialy a peetake of concept albams (wakeman) turned out to be one of the all time great concept albams in it's own right. The only blip was passion play. I brought it, lisened to it once and reilised why it was sl*gged off. it has a couple of good tracks but 'The hare who lost his specticals' encompaces all that can go wrong in prog.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2009 at 17:08
Originally posted by cacho cacho wrote:

^don't you like Catfish Rising?Confused I find it to be in the style of those 2, of course you should know that too. It's my favorite of the 3...


Actually haven't tried that one yet.  Shame on me. Embarrassed

Around these parts some folks practice noodling wherein they catch catfish by getting them to go after their bare hand and yank them out of the water without a hook.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noodling

I was pondering how this practice could have got started and I can only imagine someone dropped something in the creek and while trying to retrieve it, got their hand engulfed by a catfish, yanked it out, and said, "hey, free food". LOL

Probably fried it up real good. Tongue


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2009 at 23:41
In terms of identity , a friend of mine , who wasn't much into music way back then, used to call them DESMOND TRULL - not that sure why he was a friend now to be frank , but another mate and I still sometimes refer to them as Desmond Trull. Anyway............guess you had to be there !

' Catfish Rising' I don't think is too bad [but the subject matter should best avoid the frying pan unless starvation is an issue for you] and I like ' Roots to Branches' and I'm not talking about broccoli here or basil for that matter.. It has a lot to recommend it imo.
Looking still the same after all these years...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 15 2009 at 23:51
Originally posted by 30761760 30761760 wrote:

You definatly can't beat early tull. ... The only blip was passion play. I brought it, lisened to it once and reilised why it was sl*gged off. it has a couple of good tracks but 'The hare who lost his specticals' encompaces all that can go wrong in prog.  

I disagree, the video of "the hare who lost his spectacles" is my favourite Tull video and one of my all time favourite rock videos. It is fabulously pagan, warped and crazy theatricality par excellence. 




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But you can't deny that it was the self indulgent. The video is surreal but not excellent. It is also so far removed from the rest of tulls otherwise excellent material. It feels like a bad amatur dramatics performance rather than a rock video. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 16 2009 at 15:23
Originally posted by Borris Borris wrote:

Originally posted by 30761760 30761760 wrote:

You definatly can't beat early tull. ... The only blip was passion play. I brought it, lisened to it once and reilised why it was sl*gged off. it has a couple of good tracks but 'The hare who lost his specticals' encompaces all that can go wrong in prog.  

I disagree, the video of "the hare who lost his spectacles" is my favourite Tull video and one of my all time favourite rock videos. It is fabulously pagan, warped and crazy theatricality par excellence. 




A "couple" of good tracks?  Two out of three? LOL
I like it, including the silly bit. Big smile

The hair who lost his testicles or whatever that was...


Edited by Slartibartfast - February 16 2009 at 15:25
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2009 at 04:53
For me, the best Tull albums came from the Barriemore Barlow years.  But that's because I'm a drummer!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2009 at 07:45
Regarding Barlow, apparently after leaving Tull (where I agree he was a mainstay of their "classic" lineup) he was asked to join Camel, but just could not play at the level required and was not accepted. And then, he left music for good and went into the consturction trade, I heard. Too bad.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2009 at 10:11
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

I have a theory about the Jethro Tull and here is the theory as is it is:  Jethro Tull was thin at the beginning, much much more interesting the beginning of the middle and much less interesting after that.  That is the theory that I have and is as such that it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2009 at 10:35
Originally posted by Drummerboy Drummerboy wrote:

Regarding Barlow, apparently after leaving Tull (where I agree he was a mainstay of their "classic" lineup) he was asked to join Camel, but just could not play at the level required and was not accepted. And then, he left music for good and went into the consturction trade, I heard. Too bad.
  Barlow left Tull because saddened by the death of bassist John Glascock he informed Anderson that he just couldn`t carry on although he stuck it out till the end of the Stormwatch tour. Don`t know where the freak you got the Camel story. Barlow as far as I`m concerned surpassed anything Camel ever did. Just listen to his solo on Conundrum on Bursting Out. The construction story is pure bunk. Get your facts sraight man! After leaving Tull he formed a short lived band called Tandoori Cassette. After that he was a very in demand session player and played on albums byGeorge Harrison, Jimmy page, Robert Plant, and believe it or not Ywinge Malmsteen and if you don`t believe me check the credits on Malmsteen`s Rising Force LP. He also had a band of his own although they never released an album. He has his own recording stdio called The Doghouse in addition to managing a folk rock band called the Repertiores. More recently he played on a track on a punk rock album the name of the band which escapes me at the moment. At present he remains very active in music most recently rejoining Jethro Tull in `08 for their 40th anniversary.

Construction trade??????????????? Camel??????????????????????????????????????????????


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2009 at 11:21

^ vibrationbaby do not get angry, everybody can make mistakesWink





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2009 at 13:13
Hey I`m not getting angry just trying to set the record straight. Think about it though. Why would one of the most the talented  drummers in rock give up music to become a construction worker? Painter, botanist, monk maybe but construction worker? Just trying to set the record straight. Not angry. Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 17 2009 at 13:18
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Hey I`m not getting angry just trying to set the record straight. Think about it though. Why would one of the most the talented  drummers in rock give up music to become a construction worker? Painter, botanist, monk maybe but construction worker? Just trying to set the record straight. Not angry. Big smile
Maybe the culprit is that Rock Tree book, which showed how bands came together from disparate places, and where members went to, etc.
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