Do you like Never Mind the Bollocks?

Easy Money wrote: Never Mind is a fun album, but I was always more into the California hardcore scene ie Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Germs etc. (roots of thrash metal for you prog-metal fans). I was still kind of young when punk hit and the shows were a total blast until everything became mundane and trendy. For the record: punk didn't kill prog-rock, prog-rock killed itself. As a fan of prog from the late 60s, most of the original prog bands were putting out crap by the mid to late 70s.

Yeah, I have a lot of respect for the early hardcore scene too, because as a PMT member, I absolutely love the 80s thrash metal that spawned partly from hardcore's influence.
I've said it many times at PA too in the past, that punk never killed prog, because if it did, how would that explain why so many prog rock bands are influenced by punk? Bands from Tech/Extreme, Prog Metal, Post/Experimental, Heavy Prog, many of them are punk influenced, some to a very large degree like The Fall Of Troy which is essentially a post hardcore band at it's core, but moved into more complex writing styles.
As far as I'm concerned, as you said, music scenes kill themselfs by putting out crap records and not delivering the goods, not anything to do with other music genres 'killing' them.


Edited by HughesJB4 - February 12 2009 at 02:37

I don't care for the Pistols, but I love PiL, 

Never Mind is a fun album, but I was always more into the California hardcore scene ie Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Germs etc. (roots of thrash metal for you prog-metal fans).

I was still kind of young when punk hit and the shows were a total blast until everything became mundane and trendy.

For the record: punk didn't kill prog-rock, prog-rock killed itself. As a fan of prog from the late 60s, most of the original prog bands were putting out crap by the mid to late 70s.

Not sure I've ever heard it.

FWIW, I think I could only really appreciate what the Sex Pistols and The Ramones did for music when I truly researched it and looked at it in it's historical context (since I was unable to actually listen to it because I didn't like the music per se). I think it's worth looking up the history and historical context of those 2 bands, whether you're a fan of the music or not, because there is quite a lot to learn and understand.

Maybe not the best analogy, but it's like researching say, Nazi Germany even though you hate their regime but want to truly understand how it changed the future and the way we live, just as the Sex Pistols and The Ramones, like it or not, had a truly massive impact on the future of music, and you may hate it, but as I said, you will come out a more educated person on modern music history if you do your homework on them 2.


Edited by HughesJB4 - February 11 2009 at 19:25

To answer the OT question exactly - yes I enjoy it, the louder the better. But it was a terrible album then and it has not improved with age, however, Never Mind The Bollocks was never about "music"

I certainly had my days of enjoying it, but its not something I play anymore. 

Lucent wrote: The beginning of bad music started with Never Mind the Bollocks.

Gee, blanket statement, much?
I guess if bad music started with Nevermind the Bollocks, it must mean everyone likes ice cream.

The beginning of bad music started with Never Mind the Bollocks.

No.

Absolutely terrible album. Complete anti-music and anti-art. If you're an anarchist I guess that's okay though.