Browser War @ Progarchives.com Jan. 4 - Feb 3 2009 - Progressive Rock Music Forum

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Sean Trane View Drop Down

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 10:15

Mr ProgFreak wrote:

^ Still, I don't want to view the Shakira ads. LOL

She is a superb looking dame, though!!!

Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I know that you rely on those ads, but I honestly think that especially on this site the ads are a bit too aggressive and off topic. Embarrassed

Wow, that's twice I agree with Mike!!

Really M@X, they are sometimes very tacky as well.

I mean "Customize your Zwinky"

, "Find Your Ukraine Date"

, "Find Your Love Match"

Ya gotta be kidding, here

!!!!!!!

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

Slartibartfast View Drop Down

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 10:27

Sean Trane wrote:

I mean "Customize your Zwinky"

, "Find Your Ukraine Date"

, "Find Your Love Match"

Oh wait, now I never should have used or not really actually used an ad blocker.

Wish there were more music related ad buyers even if not prog or officially prog. Some have been particularly annoying particularly if they inject sound.

Edited by Slartibartfast - February 06 2009 at 15:32

M@X

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 10:44

Thanks ProgFreak, i'll have a look into your web host in Germany and let you know my comments.

About the un-related ads, i just re-check and the network i use for non-us,non-uk,non-canada traffic delivers thoses unrelated ads, i'll try to remove them.

Thanks for reporting

Prog On !

Mr ProgFreak View Drop Down

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 10:45

^^^ I don't mind listening to Shakira (at work, in a restaurant/club etc), let alone watching/viewing pictures of her. Just not on a prog website ... it's kind of distracting. Wink

Edited by Mr ProgFreak - February 06 2009 at 10:45

Mr ProgFreak View Drop Down

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 10:48

M@X wrote:

Thanks ProgFreak, i'll have a look into your web host in Germany and let you know my comments.

It's probably not suitable for you - they also specialize in Linux, and you'll need Windows for ASP and SQL Server - but it might be interesting to compare the specs and pricing.

M@X wrote:

About the un-related ads, i just re-check and the network i use for non-us,non-uk,non-canada traffic delivers thoses unrelated ads, i'll try to remove them.

Thanks for reporting

I guess you're torn between showing many unrelated ads (generating revenue from ad views) or few, but highly related ads (generating revenue from ad clicks).

Slartibartfast View Drop Down

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 11:45

Sean Trane wrote:

Then everybody at work knows you're f**king the dog instead of working

Shhhh.

Edited by Slartibartfast - February 06 2009 at 15:33

M@X

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 11:48

Mr ProgFreak wrote:

I can recommend Hetzner, but of course it might be useless to you since it's located in Germany. Embarrassed

I agree that it's probably a good idea to have the audio files on a separate server, I think that something like a 8 GB quad core server would be able to handle both web server and the database. I might be wrong of course, since I don't know how much traffic we're talking about.

They don't offer Windows dedicated servers ;-(

Anyway, it now cost almost 1000$ US/month to host Progarchives.com, the forum and the mp3 streaming server.

Sounds like ads are here to stay, or we become a private website and ask for a membership fee !

Other suggestions ?

Prog On !

M@X

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 13:09

I've removed the ads from the ValueClick networks for non-us (uk+canada) visitors so that Google do the delivers.
It's suppose to be more related, please report and comments here.
Thanks

Prog On !

Slartibartfast View Drop Down

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 15:34

M@X wrote:

Anyway, it now cost almost 1000$ US/month to host Progarchives.com, the forum and the mp3 streaming server.

Sounds like ads are here to stay, or we become a private website and ask for a membership fee !

Other suggestions ?

If the ads pay the dues then we should just keep quiet about you know what. Big smile

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

cobb2

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 16:11

$1000/month seems very expensive. I have just been searching for some moodle hosting and found the American companies to be the cheapest. But, I suppose with 3 servers and the amount of bandwidth needed...

Keep the ads- who takes any real notice of them anyway? If that's what it takes to keep the site going I'm sure nodoby has any real complaints.

Sean Trane View Drop Down

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 17:54

M@X wrote:

I've removed the ads from the ValueClick networks for non-us (uk+canada) visitors so that Google do the delivers.
It's suppose to be more related, please report and comments here.
Thanks

Must've worked M@X!!

Now I get a "Find You newest Viet Beauty", and other" Dress your manga heroes" and the hideous Bite Fight game adds

Butythe Shakira add has disppeared

I mean I accept the Muziek Metropool in Antwerp adds or the grind-metal T-shirt (shiroi niko) site adds, but the ones like I mentioned above......

Thanks for trying...

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

Henry Plainview View Drop Down

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Posted: February 06 2009 at 23:17

I use IE because I'm lazy. Suck it, future browsers.

if you own a sodastream i hate you

Petrovsk Mizinski View Drop Down

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Posted: February 07 2009 at 03:03

Going through the active users list, I laugh every time I see people still using IE 5/6 and Firefox 1 and 2.
I mean, seriously, do they not know updated versions exist?
I update my browser as soon as each update comes and unlike the poor sodding ancient IE version users, I use IE 8 as a backup when Firefox doesn't work or when Firefox decides to be retarded and not let myspace work properly.
I do enjoy the Firefox 3.0.6 experience more than IE 8, but both are good browsers really, and IE 8 is vastly improved over the older versions and much quicker too so it's quite handy to use when Firefox quits on me which for some reason it decides it must do every few weeks for 24 hours periods at a time Confused

UPDATE YOUR DAMN BROWSERS PEOPLE, NEWER VERSIONS EXIST.

Edited by HughesJB4 - February 07 2009 at 03:04

Sean Trane View Drop Down

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Posted: February 07 2009 at 04:43

HughesJB4 wrote:

Going through the active users list, I laugh every time I see people still using IE 5/6 and Firefox 1 and 2.
I mean, seriously, do they not know updated versions exist?
I update my browser as soon as each update comes and unlike the poor sodding ancient IE version users, I use IE 8 as a backup when Firefox doesn't work or when Firefox decides to be retarded and not let myspace work properly.
I do enjoy the Firefox 3.0.6 experience more than IE 8, but both are good browsers really, and IE 8 is vastly improved over the older versions and much quicker too so it's quite handy to use when Firefox quits on me which for some reason it decides it must do every few weeks for 24 hours periods at a time Confused

UPDATE YOUR DAMN BROWSERS PEOPLE, NEWER VERSIONS EXIST.

I use the IE8 I installed last fall

As for Mozilla it's also installed (forget which version), but I'm lazy and don't like new things. It's a uestion of habits.

Edited by Sean Trane - February 08 2009 at 10:59

let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword

Tuzvihar

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Posted: February 07 2009 at 08:36

I use Firefox with Adblock and NoScript installed and view the PA website clean of any ads. Embarrassed

I don't like ads 'cos they spoil the experience for me. Personally, I'd prefer to pay a membership fee.

"Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."

Charles Bukowski

bov

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Posted: February 10 2009 at 00:48

I expected lower numbers for Internet Explorer... Straighten up, proggers!

Pnoom!

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Posted: February 10 2009 at 00:51

bov wrote:

I expected lower numbers for Internet Explorer... Straighten up, proggers!

Hey now, give them a break. After all, they're all still living in the 70s. They'll catch up to the brilliance of Firefox in 30 years or so. Wink

Henry Plainview View Drop Down

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Posted: February 10 2009 at 00:56

HughesJB4 wrote:

Going through the active users list, I laugh every time I see people still using IE 5/6 and Firefox 1 and 2.

Hahaha, IE 5 and Firefox 1, I never noticed that before. How old a computer do you have to be on to have to run IE 5?

if you own a sodastream i hate you

Pnoom!

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Posted: February 10 2009 at 01:05

HughesJB4 wrote:

Going through the active users list, I laugh every time I see people still using IE 5/6 and Firefox 1 and 2.

I can has virusburger?

Slartibartfast View Drop Down

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Posted: February 10 2009 at 07:03

Tuzvihar wrote:

I use Firefox with Adblock and NoScript installed and view the PA website clean of any ads. Embarrassed

I don't like ads 'cos they spoil the experience for me. Personally, I'd prefer to pay a membership fee.

Shhh, we should not be talking about you know what.

Actually though, I don't know if this thing could be set up as free with ads or pay a little for none and maybe some bonus features, but I would consider it as I do enjoy hanging out here. Of course at this point that thing of which we shall not speak kind of makes it moot. And implementation at this point in the game would certainly prove difficult.

Edited by Slartibartfast - February 10 2009 at 07:32

Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...