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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 04:05 |
Worst album title (without competitor): "Arbeit Macht Frei" by Area. Unless I am greatly mistaken, this album does in no way directly deal with the Nazi regime (in which case I would have accepted the title as ironical). It may have been meant to be ironical here too, but it falls absolutely flat, in my opinion. Maybe I am overreacting because I am German, but one shouidn't toy with Nazi slogans.
Edited by BaldFriede - February 03 2009 at 04:18
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Rocktopus
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 05:38 |
Swan Song wrote:
A lot of Prog Metal albums have lousy names (ask Rocktopus for more details, he has some great examples if I remember well).
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Thanks! I don't have time to dig up the Symphonic Tears of an Infinite Dream Tragedy-titles just now.
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Find a fly and eat his eye
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The Hemulen
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 05:46 |
I've no doubt that that Area title is ironic, Friede. A quick check into the political leanings of the band should surely confirm that. Having said this, I don't personally think it was a particularly clever thing to call the album and it does little to help their cause. The music itself on that album is superb, IMO, so I find it easier to forgive them than you might!
There are a lot of awful titles out there, but my personal bugbear is bands who simply number their albums. Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn.
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b_olariu
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 05:48 |
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Abacab. Well, I hate Abacab. |
Really? Interesting. I've always liked it, so much that I gave that name to a girl when I put her in my mobile. She, of course, objected soundly once she'd caught on...so I renamed her Jack Nicholoson... |
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 05:49 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Worst album title (without competitor): "Arbeit Macht Frei" by Area. Unless I am greatly mistaken, this album does in no way directly deal with the Nazi regime (in which case I would have accepted the title as ironical). It may have been meant to be ironical here too, but it falls absolutely flat, in my opinion. Maybe I am overreacting because I am German, but one shouidn't toy with Nazi slogans.
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I agree with you on that last part. However, I think you are aware that Area were dedicated left-wingers (once Micky had as a sig a picture of them on stage with raised fists), so I can state with absolute certainty that the use of the title was ironical. Edit: Trouserpress posted while I was still writing, and said the same things in a much better way  .
Edited by Raff - February 03 2009 at 05:51
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CPicard
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 06:40 |
Soft Machine and Chicago also made some of the worst album titles. Come on, just numbers??? "The second album" or "Vol. 4", why not? But your whole discography??? Soft Machine 3, then 4, then 5, then 6 and 7 (thanks, they had actual titles for the last ones) Chicago is the winner, of course.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 06:49 |
On the Soft machine albums, the way the number is presented is part of
the title. And one Third (which is the name, not 3) , 4 and 5 it
quite beautifully done, and says something about the music. Its not just a
number:  
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 06:57 |
Relayer... what the hell does that have to do with the contents or the cover art? Is it some kind of inside joke, which is the excuse you'd expect from Jethro Tull or the Mothers of Invention, but from Yes it's just weird.
Then there's Can's debut Monster Movie. There's no songs about monsters on the album, so it's just misleading in a "is this a joke?" way.
Edited by Toaster Mantis - February 03 2009 at 06:59
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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 07:13 |
What the heck is a "Relayer" in the first place? A competitor in a relay race? A person that switches electrical relays? Someone who relays a message? Yes are the only band who not only have incomprehensible lyrics, their album titles are incomprehensible too, even if they consist of one word only. It is a wonder that "Fragile" actually seems to mean what it says.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 07:17 |
I think it's probably an inside joke but then again Yes seem way too serious a band to do that kind of thing.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 09:01 |
I think you're overanalysing the whole "Relayer" thing. Jon Anderson's lyrics were always as much to do with sound as they were meaning. "Relayer" is a lovely-sounding word, (to my ears, at least) and it slots in quite nicely amongst the music on that album.
"Tales From Topographic Oceans" however, is pure bilge.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 09:28 |
What does "topographic" even mean? Were I in the band I would instead have called it Tales from the Psychotronic Oceans. No, I don't know what "Psychotronic" means either but as far as indecipherably big words go it's by far the most singularitarianistically cool one. PSYCHOTRONIC!
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 09:31 |
Topography is the science of drawing maps.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 09:34 |
Now what is a "topographic ocean", then? An ocean that's charted? Wouldn't it be more interesting to call your big experimental concept album something like "Tales from the Uncharted Oceans"?
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 09:36 |
^ Agreed. Though it sounds good, "Topographic Oceans" is a nonsense.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 09:46 |
I also forgot Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica... it's a stupid album title because the guy on the cover is wearing a CATFISH mask.
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BaldFriede
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:21 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
I also forgot Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica... it's a stupid album title because the guy on the cover is wearing a CATFISH mask.
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You are missing the point! Of course it is a catfish mask, but then it is a replica, and trout was out when it was made, so he had to settle for catfish!
Edited by BaldFriede - February 03 2009 at 10:22
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Padraic
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:27 |
BaldFriede wrote:
Worst album title (without competitor): "Arbeit Macht Frei" by Area. Unless I am greatly mistaken, this album does in no way directly deal with the Nazi regime (in which case I would have accepted the title as ironical). It may have been meant to be ironical here too, but it falls absolutely flat, in my opinion. Maybe I am overreacting because I am German, but one shouidn't toy with Nazi slogans.
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I don't think you are. I love the band and love that album...but the title is bothersome to me as well, I always have a small internal cringe when I see it.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:42 |
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Tapfret
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Posted: February 03 2009 at 11:01 |
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