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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:21
600 000 British children in private schools!?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:21
Originally posted by James James wrote:

I believe he refers to tapping.

All ze kiddlywinks can do tapping.

Now give me some soulful playing!


Oh shut up James with your 'soulful' crap.
Because emotions are only about 'soul', urghh.
I'd feel pretty limited myself if all guitars solos had to be 'soulful'.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:22
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I believe he refers to tapping.

All ze kiddlywinks can do tapping.

Now give me some soulful playing!


Oh shut up James with your 'soulful' crap.
Because emotions are only about 'soul', urghh.
I'd feel pretty limited myself if all guitars solos had to be 'soulful'.


Not all of them.

But tapping is far too... erm... empty emotionally for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:22
I have too much of a headache to listen to any music.

I hate that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:23
I'm listening to Mogul Thrash.

It's easy on the ears.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:24
Also I don't like how my signature is fouled up.  I don't know how to make it act properly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:25
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

I have too much of a headache to listen to any music.

I hate that.


I've gone through a week where all music is too much of what it is, if that makes any sense at all. I've been playing some straight-forward NWOBHM to get the energy back.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:25
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Pat and James, have you heard Sir Millard Mulch? And would you agree that he is kind of funny but makes very boring music?

He had a good quote about going back in time and killing whoever invented the guitar because the frets let idiots play music, but it's off his website and I'll never find it again. Which is too bad because it is the only thing from him I actually liked.



"because the frets let idiots play music"
Lol what?
Do you ever see a punk rocker play cello? That is the point he was making.
 
Keep in mind, this is a guy who mostly play guitar. Unfortunately he's more pseudo-Buckethead with pseudo-Zappa lyrics than anything else in my opinion, but that's not
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:28
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I believe he refers to tapping.

All ze kiddlywinks can do tapping.

Now give me some soulful playing!


Oh shut up James with your 'soulful' crap.
Because emotions are only about 'soul', urghh.
I'd feel pretty limited myself if all guitars solos had to be 'soulful'.


Not all of them.

But tapping is far too... erm... empty emotionally for me.


And to me so is every second 'Blues player' who plays blues to justify their lack of development on the instrument and claim it sounds raw, when it really sounds like sh*t.
Blues guitar in particularly, is pretty bad lately, lots of guys 'play it' without having any f**king idea of what they are doing, and they believes blues was about 'just putting in soul and playing'.
For christ sake, the reason why Stevie Ray Vaughn sounded so amazing was because he actually knew how to play properly and actually understand the blues beyond the mere basic theoretical concepts and actually knew what he was doing to make the music come alive.
Every second blues player is just as bad as every second shredder or jazz guitarist who has no idea what they are doing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:29
I hate it when two people post at the same time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:29
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:



And to me so is every second 'Blues player' who plays blues to justify their lack of development on the instrument and claim it sounds raw, when it really sounds like sh*t.
Blues guitar in particularly, is pretty bad lately, lots of guys 'play it' without having any f**king idea of what they are doing, and they believes blues was about 'just putting in soul and playing'.
For christ sake, the reason why Stevie Ray Vaughn sounded so amazing was because he actually knew how to play properly and actually understand the blues beyond the mere basic theoretical concepts and actually knew what he was doing to make the music come alive.
Every second blues player is just as bad as every second shredder or jazz guitarist who has no idea what they are doing.


Clap for that rant.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:30
Originally posted by LinusW LinusW wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:



And to me so is every second 'Blues player' who plays blues to justify their lack of development on the instrument and claim it sounds raw, when it really sounds like sh*t.
Blues guitar in particularly, is pretty bad lately, lots of guys 'play it' without having any f**king idea of what they are doing, and they believes blues was about 'just putting in soul and playing'.
For christ sake, the reason why Stevie Ray Vaughn sounded so amazing was because he actually knew how to play properly and actually understand the blues beyond the mere basic theoretical concepts and actually knew what he was doing to make the music come alive.
Every second blues player is just as bad as every second shredder or jazz guitarist who has no idea what they are doing.


Clap for that rant.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:31
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Pat and James, have you heard Sir Millard Mulch? And would you agree that he is kind of funny but makes very boring music?

He had a good quote about going back in time and killing whoever invented the guitar because the frets let idiots play music, but it's off his website and I'll never find it again. Which is too bad because it is the only thing from him I actually liked.



"because the frets let idiots play music"
Lol what?
Do you ever see a punk rocker play cello? That is the point he was making.
 
Keep in mind, this is a guy who mostly play guitar. Unfortunately he's more pseudo-Buckethead with pseudo-Zappa lyrics than anything else in my opinion, but that's not


Are you referring to the frets as in, people play guitar because they are too stupid to memorize the notes on a violin/cello? I'm not sure if that was what you were getting at or not.
I barely ever look at the fretboard when I play. The frets are there mainly because certain fret sizes change the way the guitar feels in your hand and for me anyway, that's the main reason I like frets is because it can enhance how a guitar feels, but otherwise I think I could perfectly adapt to learning the notes on a non fretted string instrument given enough time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:32
I just feel too crappy...I need some sleep.  Later guys.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:32
I absolutely hate that blues players are put on a pedestal like that. Makes no sense at all. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:33
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

I just feel too crappy...I need some sleep.  Later guys.


Get better.

And see you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:36
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I believe he refers to tapping.

All ze kiddlywinks can do tapping.

Now give me some soulful playing!


Oh shut up James with your 'soulful' crap.
Because emotions are only about 'soul', urghh.
I'd feel pretty limited myself if all guitars solos had to be 'soulful'.


Not all of them.

But tapping is far too... erm... empty emotionally for me.


And to me so is every second 'Blues player' who plays blues to justify their lack of development on the instrument and claim it sounds raw, when it really sounds like sh*t.
Blues guitar in particularly, is pretty bad lately, lots of guys 'play it' without having any f**king idea of what they are doing, and they believes blues was about 'just putting in soul and playing'.
For christ sake, the reason why Stevie Ray Vaughn sounded so amazing was because he actually knew how to play properly and actually understand the blues beyond the mere basic theoretical concepts and actually knew what he was doing to make the music come alive.
Every second blues player is just as bad as every second shredder or jazz guitarist who has no idea what they are doing.


Wow, way to misunderstand my point! LOL

Although I do somewhat agree.

This is what I mean... current blues players don't vary their sound enough and don't experiment.

I don't mind tapping and shredding.

But I have a mate who basically shreds and taps to almost everything and he rarely plays the guitar any other way even though is capable of doing so.  It works the other way too.  With blues guitarists not changing their style occasionally tapping or shredding.

I'd prefer he played Comfortably Numb in a blues style, rather than tapping and shredding his way through it.

So it's how it's used, I'm bothered about.

And Warren Haynes knows exactly what he's doing when it comes to blues guitar. Wink


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:36
Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Pat and James, have you heard Sir Millard Mulch? And would you agree that he is kind of funny but makes very boring music?

He had a good quote about going back in time and killing whoever invented the guitar because the frets let idiots play music, but it's off his website and I'll never find it again. Which is too bad because it is the only thing from him I actually liked.



"because the frets let idiots play music"
Lol what?
Do you ever see a punk rocker play cello? That is the point he was making.
 
Keep in mind, this is a guy who mostly play guitar. Unfortunately he's more pseudo-Buckethead with pseudo-Zappa lyrics than anything else in my opinion, but that's not


Are you referring to the frets as in, people play guitar because they are too stupid to memorize the notes on a violin/cello? I'm not sure if that was what you were getting at or not.
I barely ever look at the fretboard when I play. The frets are there mainly because certain fret sizes change the way the guitar feels in your hand and for me anyway, that's the main reason I like frets is because it can enhance how a guitar feels, but otherwise I think I could perfectly adapt to learning the notes on a non fretted string instrument given enough time.
Yes, he was saying you can't get away with learning 3 chords on a cello, standing on a stage, and just playing them really energetically. I wasn't saying I agreed with him, just that I thought the way he phrased it was funny.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:39
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Yes, he was saying you can't get away with learning 3 chords on a cello, standing on a stage, and just playing them really energetically. I wasn't saying I agreed with him, just that I thought the way he phrased it was funny.


The guy from Blink-182 manages it (except he's playing a double-bass). LOL


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 01 2009 at 22:44
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by HughesJB4 HughesJB4 wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

I believe he refers to tapping.

All ze kiddlywinks can do tapping.

Now give me some soulful playing!


Oh shut up James with your 'soulful' crap.
Because emotions are only about 'soul', urghh.
I'd feel pretty limited myself if all guitars solos had to be 'soulful'.


Not all of them.

But tapping is far too... erm... empty emotionally for me.


And to me so is every second 'Blues player' who plays blues to justify their lack of development on the instrument and claim it sounds raw, when it really sounds like sh*t.
Blues guitar in particularly, is pretty bad lately, lots of guys 'play it' without having any f**king idea of what they are doing, and they believes blues was about 'just putting in soul and playing'.
For christ sake, the reason why Stevie Ray Vaughn sounded so amazing was because he actually knew how to play properly and actually understand the blues beyond the mere basic theoretical concepts and actually knew what he was doing to make the music come alive.
Every second blues player is just as bad as every second shredder or jazz guitarist who has no idea what they are doing.


Wow, way to misunderstand my point! LOL

Although I do somewhat agree.

This is what I mean... current blues players don't vary their sound enough and don't experiment.

I don't mind tapping and shredding.

But I have a mate who basically shreds and taps to almost everything and he rarely plays the guitar any other way even though is capable of doing so.

I'd prefer he played Comfortably Numb in a blues style, rather than tapping and shredding his way through it.

So it's how it's used not by guitarists I'm mot bothered about.

And Warren Haynes knows exactly what he's doing when it comes to blues guitar. Wink


Well if it must be said, my playing has gotten more restrained over the last few months after seeing some many youtube shredders without any good phrasing or taste.
I can't stand guys that shred over anything.............shred is there to fit in a context, it's not there to just try to 'shove in' any ranrom context if that makes sense.
Hell, for school I had to do a cover version of The Thrill is Gone by BB King. I spent weeks and weeks, just looking inside myself and just thinking where I needed to leave space, and I never played anything over about 4 notes in a second, which is suitable for the context.
If I were gonna take a Gilmour solo, I'd listen to it many times over, let the vibe sink in deep and think "would Gilmour himself think this is suitable for the song" and that line of thinking really helps you to see the proper context and how you should be playing..

I love watching the G3 jams in particular, because when they do a blues song, Steve Vai fumbles around and kinda noodles aimlessly, but when Satch takes his solo, it's like Albert King re incarnated yet still his own style.
Sure, he's well known for his shredding, but the man does some of the most authentic Albert King style blues licks I've heard in my life. He's a better bluesman than most blues players are.
 Warren Hayes does a great blues too, you can tell he really listened to it instead of just trying to play via the theory and chords.

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