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J-Man 
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Well, I broke a 50/50 tie, but it's obviously the egg that came first. The first chicken had to had come from an egg. Now people would say 'how did the egg get there'? It got there from another chicken who came from an egg. Case closed. That is the beginnings of the chicken.
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Logan
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Posted: December 19 2008 at 16:12 |
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An evolutionist might say that the egg came first, whereas a creationist might say that the chicken came first.
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Atavachron
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Posted: December 19 2008 at 17:11 |
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which begs the ageless question; "What day did the Lord create Spinal tap, and why didn't he rest on that day too?"
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The Quiet One
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Posted: December 19 2008 at 17:34 |
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The frog was a prince, the prince was a brick, the brick was an egg, the egg was a bird.
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WinterLight
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Posted: December 19 2008 at 17:45 |
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The rooster, obviously.
Edited by WinterLight - December 26 2008 at 09:30
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tszirmay
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Posted: December 22 2008 at 22:06 |
Since the egg eventually becomes the chicken, I can state that there is such a thing as Immaculate Conception.
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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Bj-1
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 09:29 |
"oh, an egg comes out of a chicken, oh a chicken comes out of an egg!"
Im more curious on what came first of the polka or the accordion though  |
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RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
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Dean
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 11:09 |
 WinterLight wrote:
The rooster, obviously. |
Nah, Egg were formed January 1969, Rooster few months later.
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JLocke
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 17:04 |
Vompatti wrote:
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Neither. We don`t exist. None of this exists. |
But what nonexisted first?
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JLocke
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Posted: December 26 2008 at 17:05 |
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TheCaptain
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:20 |
This needs to be read as "chick-IN-cest."
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dude
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Posted: January 16 2009 at 19:42 |
Perhaps the sperm came first............................
if you know what i mean
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omri
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 08:45 |
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I must be a bit serious and agree with Logan. Evolution wise the egg came milions of years before the chicken. And those of you that do not agree are welcome to listen to "L'evolutione" (Banco - Darwin).
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mrcozdude
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 08:50 |
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Yey my thread got bumped
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: January 18 2009 at 09:29 |
omri wrote:
I must be a bit serious and agree with Logan. Evolution wise the egg came milions of years before the chicken. And those of you that do not agree are welcome to listen to "L'evolutione" (Banco - Darwin). |
The egg in question is the egg that chickens come from not the egg of pre-chicken animals. Now what is your answer? 
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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TheCaptain
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 14:40 |
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Well, the chicken egg would have had to come before the chicken. The mutation which would have finally resulted in the first organism to be classified as a chicken would have had to come in the formation of said organism. The proto-chicken would not have suddenly mutated mid-life to become the first chicken. So there. Argument over. The egg came first.
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Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal.
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Finnforest
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 14:44 |
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I'm getting hungry.
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...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell"
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The Miracle
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 16:57 |
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The way the question is posed, "the chicken or the egg" suggests we're talking about a particular chicken and a particular egg, therefore the chicken came first (assuming the egg is fresh).
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Dean
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 17:39 |
TheCaptain wrote:
Well, the chicken egg would have had to come before the chicken. The mutation which would have finally resulted in the first organism to be classified as a chicken would have had to come in the formation of said organism. The proto-chicken would not have suddenly mutated mid-life to become the first chicken. So there. Argument over. The egg came first. |
For the egg to develop into a chicken it must contain chicken DNA and the degree of mutation required to do that is exactly the same level as required by a mid-life mutation and is therefore just as unlikely. A proto-chicken lays proto-chicken eggs and a pre-proto-chicken egg produces pre-proto-chickens. No single mutation is ever going to produce a proto-chicken from a pre-proto-chicken egg. The infinitesimal levels of change from post-proto-chicken to neo-chicken occur in equally infinitesimal small steps such that each generation is indistinguishable from the previous generation and it's only when you compare first and last do you see a difference. Therefore to mutate from a chicken-related egg into a canterbury-chicken is not a sudden single step, but is a progression of multiple proto-egg/post-egg crossover cycles. So there. Argument just rekindled. 
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darkshade
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 18:00 |
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i think im going to heat up some leftover KFC and make a couple of sunny side up eggs and call it a night...
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