The Shred Room II (with extra youth)

Epignosis wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: Epignosis wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: birdwithteeth11 wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: Right now, very annoyed, argh, goddamn it I hate it when awesome people die and then people profit off their name. It seems Dimebag Darrel from Pantera gets pissed on a whole lot too:( Ugh, tell me about it. Dean guitars has decided to make a signature amp in his name. He already has a signature amp with Krank Amplification, which at least he got to design and approve while he was still alive, but NOOOOOOO, Dean have to go and make another goddamn Dimebag signature thing. After Dimebag died, Dean decided they 'needed' 33 variations of his signature guitar. WTF is that, seriously? Why the hell do you need 33 variations of the same guitar, christ sake I hate Dean Guitars so much now, because of how much they have tarnished Dimebag's name. In fact, the original founder of Dean Guitars himself, Dean Zelinsky, left Dean Guitars because he didn't like their business practices. When the guitar that gave the company it's name leaves the company, that's seriously telling you something about what the brand turned into Don't think they ever made a Kerry Livgren sig. guitar, even though Livgren used them for years. Signature guitars are made because they will sell in nearly all cases. Face it, what 14 year old kid knows who Kerry Livgren is? And hence, no signature guitar for him A few companies do endorse also based on brand loyalty fortunately, like some small to medium size custom shop makers. I know Jackson's guitars at least has the integrity to reward loyal players with an endorsement deal and custom guitars, but always necessarily signature guitars unless they are dead certain it will sell like hotcakes. Doesn't matter the level of talent, you can put some pop punk's name on a guitar,a  guy that can barely play 3 chords correctly, and if it sells, he gets a signature guitar. Meanwhile, you never hear of jazz fusion players, guys with almighty talent, getting sig guitars sadly (A few exceptions of course, but for the most part, fusion guys are really ignored). Gotta disagree there.  Parker.  Fender. Just two examples off the top of my head that have a plethora of signature guitars.  I think it's a shame really, that some brands do exactly what you describe.  I just don't think it has to be that way.  There are too many serious players out there.

Well indeed, sure enough, Fender and Parker, to name 2, do honor guys that have been with them a long time, but these guys do have a fan base to and these guitars will sell to a decent extent.
I mean, you got Jeff Beck, you have the new Dave Murray signature (Iron Maiden) coming out, the Malmsteen Strat, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Clapton etc these guitars are gonna sell?
Sure enough, I wouldn't buy a Fender signature guitar purely because I know guys in Australia that will make me a guitar to my exact specifications for about, 1500 dollars less than a Clapton, but also, I know my sh*t about guitars and just about the only signature strat I actually thought felt good to play for me was the Malmsteen model. Sure, I'm a fan of Malmsteen's early work and his playing, but it was more about just how his guitar felt more 'right' to me than a Clapton or SRV model does.

Or Ibanez maybe. They have some greats with signature guitars, like Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Pat Metheny.
But look at their roster list of endorsees, and they have well over 100 other guys that endorse Ibanez that are very talented players and loyal to Ibanez, but  Ibanez wont budge and make them a signature model, because the demand beyond the guitar forum type guys like me just isn't there, so Ibanez wont make anything if it loses them money.

Have you guys ever tried a Flying V?

HughesJB4 wrote: Parker has nothing but a good reputation from every single Parker player I talk to. They never say a bad thing about the construction, the way it plays, or anything. Unfortunately, Parker is not a cheap option in Australia (if you lived in Australia, you'd understand how expensive gear is here, and trust me, you could try to understand, but you only would if you lived here), but the fact they come from factory with stainless steel frets, piezo bridge and those awesome looking trem systems they have, just make them awesome before I've never played one

What does a decent piece run in Aus?

June wrote: Have you guys ever tried a Flying V?

Yep.

And I thought it was garbage, quite frankly.
Gibson's quality control is so inconsistent it's embarrassing.
I've played 1100 dollars guitars that crap all over 5000 dollar Gibsons for fit and finish, quality of construction, playability and tone.
I'll never, ever, buy a Gibson guitar, because they are so absurdly overpriced for what they are.
A a Les Paul custom is 7999 AUD to buy over here.
I can get a higher quality guitar made to my exact specifications, for about 2500 AUD.
When you start to learn how amazing custom shop guitars are (from small, to medium size custom shops), you realize just how blatantly over priced stuff like Gibson is.

Epignosis wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: Parker has nothing but a good reputation from every single Parker player I talk to. They never say a bad thing about the construction, the way it plays, or anything. Unfortunately, Parker is not a cheap option in Australia (if you lived in Australia, you'd understand how expensive gear is here, and trust me, you could try to understand, but you only would if you lived here), but the fact they come from factory with stainless steel frets, piezo bridge and those awesome looking trem systems they have, just make them awesome before I've never played one What does a decent piece run in Aus?

Of anything?
Well, to give you a general idea of guitar prices, starting with big brands, a Fender Deluxe American Strat would set you back 3099 dollars here.
A Les Paul standard, 5000 dollars.
Parkers start at around 2000 dollars here, going up to probably 4-5 grand.

For me personally, buying mass made guitars new is not an option because of the research I've put into guitar stuff, I either buy used, or I'll save some money and go custom shop.

HughesJB4 wrote: Epignosis wrote: HughesJB4 wrote: Parker has nothing but a good reputation from every single Parker player I talk to. They never say a bad thing about the construction, the way it plays, or anything. Unfortunately, Parker is not a cheap option in Australia (if you lived in Australia, you'd understand how expensive gear is here, and trust me, you could try to understand, but you only would if you lived here), but the fact they come from factory with stainless steel frets, piezo bridge and those awesome looking trem systems they have, just make them awesome before I've never played one What does a decent piece run in Aus? Of anything? Well, to give you a general idea of guitar prices, starting with big brands, a Fender Deluxe American Strat would set you back 3099 dollars here. A Les Paul standard, 5000 dollars. Parkers start at around 2000 dollars here, going up to probably 4-5 grand. For me personally, buying mass made guitars new is not an option because of the research I've put into guitar stuff, I either buy used, or I'll save some money and go custom shop.

Geezus, as you would say.

Well it was good chatting, but I have to get going.
Bye!

Well June, just me and you...

...unless that creature Pat is still here. 

I'm here.

June wrote: Pat is... Nature_Science, right?

Yeah.

And relax.  I'm married.  Just like to pick on ya cos you're a prog-loving, teach-loving lady.