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Petrovsk Mizinski View Drop Down

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:10

FRANKFRANKZAPPAFRANKZAPPAFRANKZAPPAFRANKZAPPAZAPPA

Leningrad

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:15

wahpedalwahpedalwahpedalwahpedalwahpedalwahpedal

Petrovsk Mizinski View Drop Down

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:16

Dylan only listens to progrock.

Leningrad

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:17

I refuse to disgrace my honor as a progressive rock fan.

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:20

Symmetrical Arizona = Mindblowingly beautiful

Mikerinos

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:25

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Mindblowingly beautiful

Sounds like it should be an oxymoron, but it isn't. Tongue

Petrovsk Mizinski View Drop Down

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:25

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Symmetrical Arizona = Mindblowingly beautiful

After a few listens of that song I was hooked and then listened to it everyday for about 2 months straight.

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:29

HughesJB4 wrote:

FRANKFRANKZAPPAFRANKZAPPAFRANKZAPPAFRANKZAPPAZAPPA

Poll=made. LET THE STUPID BULLSH*T FLY!

if you own a sodastream i hate you

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 22:33

I speed at night.. ALRIGHT !

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Posted: January 13 2009 at 23:41

Henry Plainview wrote:

June wrote:

What did I miss exactly? I'm all confused...

PA's reorganizing and some of you don't like where Zappa is heading?

Then something about pizza?

No, I was just wondering if there were any plans to move Zappa, since I've seen several people talk about it. Then NS told me there isn't because only several people have talked about it.

Well when the ZART discussed it a while back, most of us agreed he'd be better in Eclectic. So I'm not exactly sure why he's still in RIO/Avant-prog... oh well.

Not only was it because only a handful of his albums are avant-prog but also because all his albums hog the top spot when it comes to ratings and well, that's not very representative of the genre.

I don't know much Zappa but I do know all his albums are varied and his career didn't centre on any particular one. Therefore, in my mind, Eclectic fits him like a glove.

He isn't an avant-prog artist.

Yes he made some avant albums but it's not the sum of his career. He changed ideas when the wind blew.

Edited by James - January 13 2009 at 23:46

Petrovsk Mizinski View Drop Down

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 05:05

James wrote:

Henry Plainview wrote:

June wrote:

What did I miss exactly? I'm all confused...

PA's reorganizing and some of you don't like where Zappa is heading?

Then something about pizza?

No, I was just wondering if there were any plans to move Zappa, since I've seen several people talk about it. Then NS told me there isn't because only several people have talked about it.

James' post =exactly my thoughts on the issue

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 10:16

Atavachron wrote:

oh no, not the 'put Rush in ProgRelated' nonsense again.. over my dead body

Was a joke Wink

Decided to try and review something today. Either Floydian or not.

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 10:30

Zappa might fit into the eclectic genre better, but I think his music is more characterized by avant-garde humor than anything else. So it could go either way. I don't really like the new ProgArchives taxonomy, I preferred the simpler days when, if in doubt, you'd just put it in "Art Rock." :P

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 10:50

No one really has explained what makes him eclectic, just that he's "not avant enough" which brings up that whole Laplace thread again...

If I think avant, what's the first artist that I think of? Zappa. Moving him would be like putting Rush in Prog Related because of their 90s albums.

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 10:56

I don't own a single Zappa album. Therefore I'm comfortably silent in this discussion.

Now: studies

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:09

King By-Tor wrote:

No one really has explained what makes him eclectic, just that he's "not avant enough" which brings up that whole Laplace thread again...

If I think avant, what's the first artist that I think of? Zappa. Moving him would be like putting Rush in Prog Related because of their 90s albums.

Not just that, he also fuses a lot more styles than avant rock. I don't know what thread you're talking about.

No, it's not, because the most famous Rush albums are prog. FZ is more well known for Hot Rats, Overnight Sensation, One Size Fits All, etc. than Weasels Ripped My Flesh and Freak Out. And IMO Freak Out shouldn't even count because Monster Magnet and the humor are the only really avant-garde things on there.

Edited by Henry Plainview - January 14 2009 at 12:11

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:14

"Elitest Avant Proggers"

I don't think it would be a good move. Like I said, he's one of the founders of the genre, why move him?

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:16

King By-Tor wrote:

"Elitest Avant Proggers"

I don't think it would be a good move. Like I said, he's one of the founders of the genre, why move him?

I'd think of him more as "proto-RIO"...a huge influence on the founders of the genre, the original RIO bands.

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:18

The Beardfish is so good!

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Posted: January 14 2009 at 12:19

NaturalScience wrote:

King By-Tor wrote:

"Elitest Avant Proggers"

I don't think it would be a good move. Like I said, he's one of the founders of the genre, why move him?

I'd think of him more as "proto-RIO"...a huge influence on the founders of the genre, the original RIO bands.

In which case he should stay where he is.