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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 13:27
Exactly,Dean.

I was never drawn to the 'real punk' bands. Funnily enough after the initial swathes of bands,and there weren't many,the bands that got to make at least a second album started to make more,for want of a better word,intricate records.John Lydon formed P.I.L. who were massively influenced by bands like Faust,Can and dub.The Clash started to release double and triple albums and the bands that formed under the influence of The Clash and The Pistols formed the New Wave/Indie brigade.   

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 13:19
I don't know how many times I have to say that image had nothing to do with the rejection of The Stranglers for Crossover - I'm really not that shallow as to not to be able to see past the image to the musical endeavour beneath. I have said that I never considered them to be Punk, their musical styles covered many genres and in the main they were Art Rock, but not Progressive Art Rock, in much the same way as a number of Post-Punk bands from that era, such as Talking Heads, Television, XTC and Ultravox! could also be called Art Rock.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 13:15
I can remember walking into a record shop with a friend, both of us prog fans,and hearing the newly released Stranglers debut,'Rattus Norvegicus'.Both of us were blown away by the album.I purchased it immediately.My first 'Punk' purchase.

When I told the 'real punks' at school,they laughed at me saying that was typical of a prog fan.The Stranglers weren't punk just prog dressed up as punk and they (The Stranglers) had keyboards and that was not punk and neither were XTC,so there! Ah,from the mouths of babes...er,sorry,punks.

Now,did I ever tell you that I saw The Stranglers at the infamous Battersea Park gig when Peter Gabriel supported them?...No.Well make yourself comfortable and I will tell you....Picture goes hazy...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 13:01
Hell, it seems Stranglers justify their name.
First they 'strangled' Erik, now Jean.

I think it's childish and absolutely not a reason to leave PA (like Erik did) or to refuse to be a reviewer.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 12:14
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

When did The Stranglers ever sound like Yes and Genesis?

many many times. but I have given up fighting for the Stranglers. most people in here confuse image with music when it comes to the Stranglers. anyone who listens to them with an open mind should realize how very progressive they are. I once made a checklist of the criteria which are being used to decide whether a band is prog or not, and the Stranglers scored on all but 3 or 4 of these criteria, which is an excellent result. there are many bands in the archives whose score is a lot lower.
the rejection of the Stranglers are the reason why I asked for having my status of prog reviewer removed. if I am so fundamentally wrong about them I can not be trusted with this status. of course I do believe that I am right, but the majority was against me


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 06:41
Oh that's why i liked The Stranglers! I am a progressive fan but i never though i could consider this band prog, maybe just a little bit but not mainly progressive. I saw them 3 years back and they were awesome.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2009 at 02:19
I don't know the song Harlequin ( sorry people ) , but Tits can't be really taken as  a typical Stranglers song as it was a one off at a gig  , played only once as far as I know , I think if its on Black & White these days on CD , its just as a filler , back in the day ( 1978 ) it was a freebie  on the B-side to Walk on By , which itself was later released as a single despite 75,000 being given away with B&W . Tits was basically a joke song the band put in when they didn't have so much material to use .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2009 at 19:35
Interesting read in Classic Rock's recent prog special - where one of the guys basically states how Stranglers made many tunes mimicking Caravan in compositional structure ;-)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2009 at 08:57
Probably one of the worlds greatest bands with some prog sensibilities but...  Not prog.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 31 2009 at 07:10
Interesting to read in the Classic Rock Prog special this month that JJ Burnel is a big fan of Caravan's "In the land of grey and pink" and that "Down in the sewer" was influenced by the title track. He also says their version of "Walk on By" is "probably" prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2009 at 06:50
definitely nice to see someone is of my opinion, though


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2009 at 06:25
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

When did The Stranglers ever sound like Yes and Genesis?

on "Black and White", for example. a full-fledged prog album, in my book. but we had that discussion before, as a result of which I resigned from my title as prog reviewer. some people are of the opinion that was an overreaction, but I disagree. a prog reviewer on this site should be someone who can be trusted in what he or she regards to be prog; a kind of spokesman. since I was so far off the mark I saw no other possibility. you can't have a spokesman for the government be of a basically different opinion than the president
I remember the discussion well. Smile  I still don't see it myself (although I'm a big fan of the album). Thinking about it further I can see some elements of Yes in there but someone would have to tell me which bits of The Stranglers sound like Genesis. On the face of it songs such as Harlequin and T*TS are about as far apart as you can get. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2009 at 04:38
Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

  you can't have a spokesman for the government be of a basically different opinion than the president


sure you can, those are the best kind


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2009 at 04:34
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

When did The Stranglers ever sound like Yes and Genesis?

on "Black and White", for example. a full-fledged prog album, in my book. but we had that discussion before, as a result of which I resigned from my title as prog reviewer. some people are of the opinion that was an overreaction, but I disagree. a prog reviewer on this site should be someone who can be trusted in what he or she regards to be prog; a kind of spokesman. since I was so far off the mark I saw no other possibility. you can't have a spokesman for the government be of a basically different opinion than the president


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2009 at 02:05
yes, then as well. Wink LOL 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2009 at 23:10
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Thank you for your suggestion, The Stranglers where evaluated and rejected by the Crossover and the Prog Related Teams earlier this year.
i thought that decision happened last year Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2009 at 14:19
Thank you for your suggestion, The Stranglers where evaluated and rejected by the Crossover and the Prog Related Teams earlier this year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2009 at 14:16
When did The Stranglers ever sound like Yes and Genesis?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2009 at 13:58
Soo what? Jet Black is over 70 years old?? Some Stranglers, although Hugh Cornwell left the band 1990... some old things just don't change. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2009 at 13:49
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

The Stranglers have been recommended a number of times -- here's the last topic. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=51811
I thought there was merit as a Prog Related addition, but....

Ok.. just listening The Stranglers, and they sometimes sound like overboosted Genesis... soo there, and here

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