The Shred Room II (with extra youth)

James wrote: What amuses me is how many Porcupine Tree fans are ignorant and don't know who Riverside are.  Riverside are in fact better than Porcupine Tree as well, which makes me giggle even more.

Hey James, here's a random question:

Who the heck is Bone? 

NaturalScience wrote: I never did get that newest Riverside either.

I know some people find it less atmospheric and dreamy and, well, not as good as SLS. I enjoy it a bit, but I've only heard it twice or something like that, so I'm not in much of a position to judge.

Henry Plainview wrote: James wrote: What amuses me is how many Porcupine Tree fans are ignorant and don't know who Riverside are.  Riverside are in fact better than Porcupine Tree as well, which makes me giggle even more. I am sick of Porcupine Tree's fans and of seeing their stupid name everywhere. It's all right right now, but later this year when their new album is out it's going to f**king insufferable. STEVE WILSON HAS MADE THE BEST PROG ALBUM EVER AGAIN!!!

I poked my head in that "PT Top 100" thread, gotta love the first post:

"I don't understand why there's no PT album in the top 100.  Obviously they're the greatest prog band around today..."

I like PT, but come on, it's true they are hardly the most progressive band around and hardly the most innovative either but the fanboys wont accept it. I just like the song writing on their last few albums really, but I still like a lot of others a fair bit more anyway.

NaturalScience wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: James wrote: What amuses me is how many Porcupine Tree fans are ignorant and don't know who Riverside are.  Riverside are in fact better than Porcupine Tree as well, which makes me giggle even more. I am sick of Porcupine Tree's fans and of seeing their stupid name everywhere. It's all right right now, but later this year when their new album is out it's going to f**king insufferable. STEVE WILSON HAS MADE THE BEST PROG ALBUM EVER AGAIN!!! I poked my head in that "PT Top 100" thread, gotta love the first post: "I don't understand why there's no PT album in the top 100.  Obviously they're the greatest prog band around today..."

birdwithteeth11 wrote: NaturalScience wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: James wrote: What amuses me is how many Porcupine Tree fans are ignorant and don't know who Riverside are.  Riverside are in fact better than Porcupine Tree as well, which makes me giggle even more. I am sick of Porcupine Tree's fans and of seeing their stupid name everywhere. It's all right right now, but later this year when their new album is out it's going to f**king insufferable. STEVE WILSON HAS MADE THE BEST PROG ALBUM EVER AGAIN!!! I poked my head in that "PT Top 100" thread, gotta love the first post: "I don't understand why there's no PT album in the top 100.  Obviously they're the greatest prog band around today...after Magma, Univers Zero, Present, Guapo and One Shot" Fixed And hopefully I didn't open up a can of worms.

Fixed again.

*sigh*

HughesJB4 wrote: I like PT, but come on, it's true they are hardly the most progressive band around and hardly the most innovative either but the fanboys wont accept it. I just like the song writing on their last few albums really, but I still like a lot of others a fair bit more anyway.

I really like the band, have a lot of their albums.  But I consider them among the better modern rock bands, not prog deities.  I mean, to consider "In Absentia" at the vanguard of modern prog?  That's just not credible.

HughesJB4 wrote: James wrote: MovingPictures07 wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: You missed my point entirely. Degrees of culpability under the influence of substances is an entirely different subject than someone who is bipolar, which is what I brought up. I don't think mental illnesses are near like physical illnesses; thus, I avoid the terminology or categorizations of words like "bipolar". It's only a way to group and restrict an individual's behavior in an attempt to try to explain it through knowledge based purely on mass generalizations. It still doesn't take away from the fundamental concept that YOU and you alone are responsible for your actions, no matter what "disease" you may have.   Although while on the subject of illegal substances, I just slipped some LSD into your drink. Are you culpable now? That is an interesting point, actually, and quite a hard line to say for sure. I would say, depending on the method by which you slipped that substance into my drink, the person is still to a degree culpable (though not as much as someone who would directly choose to consume LSD)... if you're not paying attention and the other person slipped it in there pretty obviously, well, it's at least partially YOUR fault for not noticing and for taking the drink (along with the fault of the person who put it in there). The answer to this depends entirely on the circumstances, but in the end it still is bound by the previously stated concept. If you end up killing someone while under the influence (though I'm not sure what would prompt you to do that), the conditions under which you committed the action don't matter. You still killed someone. Again, a complicated matter.   And is not weakness genetic? Now if this were Bioshock... No, weakness is not genetic. It's a strand of controllable, conscious decisions or responses. This post (well, the parts in blue anyhow) smells of bullsh*t. Yeah, I think we can all agree, only Alex agrees with his blue post there. No one else does.

Does that make me wrong though?

But then my mate who likes Porcupine Tree/Wilson does prefer H-era Marillion and is obsessed by Opeth...

Oh well.

Maybe he's not in control of all his faculties, eh Alex?   Perhaps he's buckling to peer pressure and likes those bands 'cause very few others don't.  What of it?  Well... not much really.

He likes them 'cause he likes them.  Even if he is a n00b.