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Henry Plainview 
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 Posted: January 09 2009 at 14:42 |
 NaturalScience wrote:
MovingPictures07 wrote:
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Oof. I'm getting RIO'd out over here. Need something a bit less frantic.
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Try Octavarium. 
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Sorry, I meant less frantic but still, you know, good.
(just kidding)
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WHAT IS LOVE? :P
I like to be soothed by classic big band jazz. Or Kind of Blue.
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Padraic
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 14:49 |
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Funny you mentioned Miles, I'm actually went with In a Silent Way.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 14:52 |
My soothing music is usually Jarre, Tangerine Dream, Henry Cow, and... Casualties of Applied Metaphysics. 
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 14:58 |
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Funny you mentioned Miles, I'm actually went with In a Silent Way.
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That's a good one too. I need to give that one some more listens. Sometimes you do need some tonality.
I wouldn't call Henry Cow very relaxing.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 14:59 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
NaturalScience wrote:
Funny you mentioned Miles, I'm actually went with In a Silent Way.
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That's a good one too. I need to give that one some more listens. Sometimes you do need some tonality.
I wouldn't call Henry Cow very relaxing. |
It is for me. 
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 15:07 |
I guess it's softer than metal, but it's not peaceful. Although I guess I can see your point since, for example, A Love Supreme or Albert Ayler are superficially very chaotic, but there's often a deep sense of peace underneath it.
Speaking of Casualties, I finally listened to it (well, most of it), and I have to agree with the people who said the second half was stronger. The first half sounded exactly like the aimless spacey noodlings I used to do sometimes, especially since you were using some of the same tones. And I would advise against that chaotic vocal track again, even if you singing Close to the Edge made me laugh.
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 15:10 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
I guess it's softer than metal, but it's not peaceful. Although I guess I can see your point since, for example, A Love Supreme or Albert Ayler are superficially very chaotic, but there's often a deep sense of peace underneath it.
Speaking of Casualties, I finally listened to it (well, most of it), and I have to agree with the people who said the second half was stronger. The first half sounded exactly like the aimless spacey noodlings I used to do sometimes, especially since you were using some of the same tones. And I would advise against that chaotic vocal track again, even if you singing Close to the Edge made me laugh. |
Haha, yeah, Internal Tribute was a one-time experiment, and it was meant to be very demented and humorous. I do still love that album; and believe it or not, there is alot of structure to the first half too, but I do think the second half is just better and stands up better in that regard. Thankfully, Ex cuts back on noodling, and that may be why I prefer it much more. Thanks for the feedback. 
Edited by MovingPictures07 - January 09 2009 at 15:10
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 15:29 |
I'll grant you that I maybe wasn't listening hard enough, because I don't know how much time you put into those songs, and I'd be kind of annoyed is someone was like "Yeah, I could totally improvise that piece you spent hours writing". I'm just saying that sometimes it sounded a lot like something I improvised, because I, oddly enough, really liked that tone for a little while too, although your style is noticably different. What's that tone called again? My favorite part was the little organ thing, because even though I knew that I IV V harmony at the end was coming, I still like it as it's another thing I tend to do. Next you'll be going on endlessly with the sustain pedal on a piano. :O
But you like Dream Theater so our standards of composing vs noodling may be a little different. ;-)
Edited by Henry Plainview - January 09 2009 at 15:30
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 15:34 |
Henry Plainview wrote:
I'll grant you that I maybe wasn't listening hard enough, because I don't know how much time you put into those songs, and I'd be kind of annoyed is someone was like "Yeah, I could totally improvise that piece you spent hours writing". I'm just saying that sometimes it sounded a lot like something I improvised, because I, oddly enough, really liked that tone for a little while too, although your style is noticably different. What's that tone called again? My favorite part was the little organ thing, because even though I knew that I IV V harmony at the end was coming, I still like it as it's another thing I tend to do. Next you'll be going on endlessly with the sustain pedal on a piano. :O
But you like Dream Theater so our standards of composing vs noodling may be a little different. ;-)
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Yeah, that's understandable. I think those first few songs, particularly ones like Lost Wanderings, take definitely more than a few listens to catch any sort of compositional structure (that one took me the longest of any song on there, I think, or is at least up there). Nonetheless, they accomplish what I wanted them to---they're much more reliant on mood than melody or any initially recognizable form of composition. I did spend nearly two and a half years on and off on this album though, so there's something there.  Which tone/song? I actually used quite a few, so it depends on the composition, and I also mixed tones throughout the same song.
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 15:56 |
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One track sounded like something I also once noodled on a microKorg. It's easy to do.
Alas I could not replicate it 'cause as I said, it was just noodlings and I don't have access to a microKorg or Korg.
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:08 |
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You know, Marc Knopfler's solo on The Sultans of Swing is quite interesting.
There's virtually any reverb or anything. I'm sure someone more versed in the way of the guitar, will be able to elaborate on what I mean.
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:13 |
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Hey boys, how are you all?
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Padraic
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:14 |
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Doing well, June, how are you?
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:14 |
James wrote:
You know, Marc Knopfler's solo on The Sultans of Swing is quite interesting.
There's virtually any reverb or anything. I'm sure someone more versed in the way of the guitar, will be able to elaborate on what I mean.
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I'm a big fan of Knopfler's guitar. He has a pretty instantly recognisable style. I can't really speak from a technical standpoint, though.
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Padraic
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:19 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
James wrote:
You know, Marc Knopfler's solo on The Sultans of Swing is quite interesting.
There's virtually any reverb or anything. I'm sure someone more versed in the way of the guitar, will be able to elaborate on what I mean.
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I'm a big fan of Knopfler's guitar. He has a pretty instantly recognisable style. I can't really speak from a technical standpoint, though.
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Same here, but I know what James means, sort of. That solo in Sultans is just so clean, impeccable.
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June
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:20 |
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Doing well, June, how are you? |
Not too too bad, thank you. It's Friday, so life's great!
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Padraic
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:21 |
June wrote:
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Doing well, June, how are you? |
Not too too bad, thank you. It's Friday, so life's great! |
Indeed it is - and I must head home. See you all later.
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June
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 16:25 |
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 17:11 |
MovingPictures07 wrote:
Henry Plainview wrote:
I'll grant you that I maybe wasn't listening hard enough, because I don't know how much time you put into those songs, and I'd be kind of annoyed is someone was like "Yeah, I could totally improvise that piece you spent hours writing". I'm just saying that sometimes it sounded a lot like something I improvised, because I, oddly enough, really liked that tone for a little while too, although your style is noticably different. What's that tone called again? My favorite part was the little organ thing, because even though I knew that I IV V harmony at the end was coming, I still like it as it's another thing I tend to do. Next you'll be going on endlessly with the sustain pedal on a piano. :O
But you like Dream Theater so our standards of composing vs noodling may be a little different. ;-) |
Yeah, that's understandable. I think those first few songs, particularly ones like Lost Wanderings, take definitely more than a few listens to catch any sort of compositional structure (that one took me the longest of any song on there, I think, or is at least up there). Nonetheless, they accomplish what I wanted them to---they're much more reliant on mood than melody or any initially recognizable form of composition. I did spend nearly two and a half years on and off on this album though, so there's something there.
Which tone/song? I actually used quite a few, so it depends on the composition, and I also mixed tones throughout the same song.
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The one that's dominant in the middle to end of Cosmic Entrance (and another song too that I don't remember). I just think it would be funny if they had the same name, although I guess it wouldn't be surprising if you're using a Yamaha.
Also, you really should just put a Megaupload or Rapidshare link to it on your site.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Posted: January 09 2009 at 18:00 |
NaturalScience wrote:
TGM: Orb wrote:
James wrote:
You know, Marc Knopfler's solo on The Sultans of Swing is quite interesting.
There's virtually any reverb or anything. I'm sure someone more versed in the way of the guitar, will be able to elaborate on what I mean.
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I'm a big fan of Knopfler's guitar. He has a pretty instantly recognisable style. I can't really speak from a technical standpoint, though.
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Same here, but I know what James means, sort of. That solo in Sultans is just so clean, impeccable.
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Well I was referring to a live version of Sultans of Swing which features two solos. The solo is odd inasmuch as it sounds like an unplugged electric guitar, only plugged-in. No reverb or anything really. Not especially voluminous either.
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